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Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2013 5:58:16 am PST #7398 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

How are they... but.. In And Out Burger? I take it they're more than just burger flippers.

He's a manager type (co-worker thinks he makes in the $18/hr range), she's a line worker (we guess around $10ish/hr range). Yeah. That's kinda what my reaction was (hence the learning pay ranges).

It's a resort location up in Arrowhead Mountain, outside of LA. Her family is from Vegas, his from Orange County. So Arrowhead was the "half way between" location... sort of. Yeah. A bit absurd.

Seriously, you are (everyone is) entitled to have whatever opinion you want about someone else's wedding. But since I just went through planning a wedding, I have to say -- you don't know all their reasons for choosing what they're choosing, and there are probably a lot more factors involved than you can know, no matter what info you gleaned from one conversation.

We got shit for a lot of our choices, and it fucking hurt. It's not possible to make all your guests happy -- let alone every other non-guest who still has an opinion anyway -- so you end up getting shit about the choices you made for your own damn wedding. And that? Not awesome.

Would I spend $14,000 on a venue? Nope. But it's not my wedding; it's theirs.


Trudy Booth - Dec 20, 2013 6:04:36 am PST #7399 of 30002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Post marked, Hil!


Toddson - Dec 20, 2013 7:11:23 am PST #7400 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I figure anyone's choices about their wedding are their business ... as long as it doesn't involve animal sacrifices or anything like that.

I remember years ago there was this huge debate running in one of the advice columns - a couple who were vegetarian announced that they wouldn't be serving meat at the wedding dinner. A number of their invited guests announced that if there wasn't any meat - how COULD THEY?!?!?! - they wouldn't be attending. My reaction was "huh?"


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2013 7:15:32 am PST #7401 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I remember years ago there was this huge debate running in one of the advice columns - a couple who were vegetarian announced that they wouldn't be serving meat at the wedding dinner. A number of their invited guests announced that if there wasn't any meat - how COULD THEY?!?!?! - they wouldn't be attending. My reaction was "huh?"

People are that way about alcohol, too. Violently so. Several people asked me if we would be serving alcohol, "Because I know Tim doesn't drink, but you wouldn't punish your guests because of his choice, right?"

Seriously, "punish"? I know booze at weddings is generally standard, but if you think a dry wedding is a punishment, you may need to back the truck up.


Toddson - Dec 20, 2013 7:19:35 am PST #7402 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Seriously ... do you go to a wedding for the food and drink or to watch someone be happy?


Anne W. - Dec 20, 2013 7:21:07 am PST #7403 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

If the meat and alcohol are that important to you, then stop somewhere after the reception for a burger and a beer. Sheesh...


Nora Deirdre - Dec 20, 2013 7:27:55 am PST #7404 of 30002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I have been to both dry and vegetarian weddings (and a dry vegetarian wedding) and while I VERY MUCH appreciate the social lubricant that an open bar provides obviously I would never presume that my preferences should be taken into account or even verbalized to the happy couple and their immediate family.


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2013 7:31:28 am PST #7405 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, HELL yes. I personally would strongly prefer there be booze at a wedding, and I might express disappointment (quietly) to Tim if there isn't, but I don't feel like I have the right to booze, and I sure would never say so to the couple.


Trudy Booth - Dec 20, 2013 7:31:34 am PST #7406 of 30002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Sneak in a flask and some jerky, people. Or maybe just STFU.


Steph L. - Dec 20, 2013 7:35:55 am PST #7407 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

We didn't have a full bar, but we had a crapload of many types of beers (from microbrews to Bud Light), ciders, white wine, red wine, and apparently endless champagne. If we had had the budget for a full bar (meaning spirits) we would have done it, but our guest list generally drinks beer and wine anyway. (And if we had had whiskey, I probably would have started doing shots, and that ends up with me flashing people, which is kind of tacky when you're the bride. So it worked out for the best.)

I still have 1 bottle of wedding champagne left, which we're taking to a NYE shindig. (I'd save it for the 1-year anniversary, but since Tim doesn't drink, it would be just me swigging it out of the bottle, and that's just sad.)