You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Shir - Aug 11, 2013 11:01:40 am PDT #3028 of 30002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Awesome shirt, Aims. I'm sorry for the OMGWHAT folks invading your birthday like that, but glad that all in all it was great. And happy belated.

And also, I think of you whenever I see a camel.

In other news: tahini. It's so good. It's so tasty. Makes one want to accept it as a personal savior and preach its miracles to those who never heard about it.

Really. That good.


WindSparrow - Aug 11, 2013 11:59:15 am PDT #3029 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Bouncy bouncy, indeed.


WindSparrow - Aug 11, 2013 12:05:30 pm PDT #3030 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I really hate the term "fucktard". Maybe it is because of my line of work, but it's just beyond ugly. There is a lot of contempt packed into it, and while it is being directed at people who are behaving contemptibly, it also drags some other people into the contempt who do not deserve it.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2013 1:08:41 pm PDT #3031 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Somehow group behavior seems to just amplify individual's bad behavior.

I think somehow some people figure they can hide behind it and not get called out, and even though you know there's backchannel it's really easy to ignore that it could ever be about you, and negative. Entitledness just needs silence to feed it, really.

I'd never invite them to anything again--it's easy for us to say that, because we don't know the good times, why you were friends with them in the first place, but it would be my reflex to not just avoid the unpleasant situation that you can't fix, but to just not be around them for causing a stupid and unpleasant situation in the first place. I'm harsh and unforgiving, though.


Aims - Aug 11, 2013 1:13:41 pm PDT #3032 of 30002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

These are friends that came with the marriage. K has been friends with The Group since prehistoric times, his wife not as long, but longer than me. I invite them to stuff because ... they just get invited. Then again, it seems to be very prevalent in The Group to excuse bad behavior because , "Oh, that's just ______! He/She doesn't mean any harm!" Personally, I'm really fucking tired of it. It's one of the factors that makes Joe and me want to leave Michigan again.


beekaytee - Aug 11, 2013 1:23:45 pm PDT #3033 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

Entitledness just needs silence to feed it, really.

Exactly, which leads to the phenomenon Aimee described.

My "Tribe" had a prominent member who was so ridiculously late to everything that people would lie to her about when events were supposed to start. They lied on the off chance that she might mistakenly NOT be hours late.

Everyone 'joked' about it, calling it K-time and rolling their eyes.

When I chose to confront her, it was shocking how quickly the folks who bitched behind her back disappeared.

In the end, the disrespect of wasting people's time boiled over into lots of other negative situations. It was sad.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2013 1:26:28 pm PDT #3034 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fuck me with a spoon if I don't hate people who didn't mean any harm (or anything by it). People who were just trying to help when they did something that messed you up, yes, I grit my teeth and bear it unless it does harm me.

But I try to be not "that's just ita !" and I want when I mean to do harm to look really different from when I don't. Just sayin'.

I know I fail--but I'm working on it, and I hope I'm improving.


Aims - Aug 11, 2013 1:29:17 pm PDT #3035 of 30002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Fuck me with a spoon if I don't hate people who didn't mean any harm (or anything by it).

Right?


erikaj - Aug 11, 2013 1:45:06 pm PDT #3036 of 30002
Always Anti-fascist!

Sometimes I get really mad at the "it's just his way!" people. Only thing is, I can't decide if it's cause the way they act is really beyond the pale, or if I'm just pissed that nobody issued me a similar, lifelong pass. ETA: Even people who do mean harm, don't generally cop to it.(In my experience, anyway)


Dana - Aug 11, 2013 1:54:02 pm PDT #3037 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I tried to post a joke from the movie theater, but auto-correct ruined it. So, here we go.

Don't touch Joey's food!

t /Friends