Come on. You drop by for a cup of coffee, and the world's not ending? Please.

Connor ,'Not Fade Away'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


lisah - Aug 11, 2016 10:30:20 am PDT #25772 of 30002
Punishingly Intricate

Thank you for sharing the joy that is your daughter with all of us.

This!!


askye - Aug 11, 2016 10:57:28 am PDT #25773 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

Happy Birthday ltc and mommyversary (I like that)

My interview got changed until Saturday.


Beverly - Aug 11, 2016 11:11:52 am PDT #25774 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Hippo Birdies, ltc! Thank you--and your mom for posting pictures--for brightening our lives with your gorgeous smile the past year. We look forward to more of the same!


Topic!Cindy - Aug 11, 2016 6:20:59 pm PDT #25775 of 30002
What is even happening?

Oh, sj, your LTC is one, today?! Enjoy. It goes way too fast.


beekaytee - Aug 12, 2016 4:35:01 am PDT #25776 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

Oh, Happy Birthday to a Darling Girl! And Felicitations to the whole Cup Family!

I heart this.

Happy Birthday Little Teacup! (I'm still a Little Teapot. We should totally hang out.)


beekaytee - Aug 12, 2016 4:44:45 am PDT #25777 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

I'm popping in for some hivemind thoughts.

So. This friend of mine who is, as far as I know, a good and decent fellow, is currently sleeping in my living room.

He went on a grand adventure tour of the country on his motorcycle for a few months and left his old car with me. I rarely drive, but he wanted someone to take care of it, so I did.

When he got back, he dropped from the sky and landed on my doorstep with a casual mention that he had nowhere to stay because our mutual friend, with whom I thought this friend would live until he gets back on his feet, was out of town.

He stayed for three days and then went off to visit someone else where, again, I thought he could stay until...Both of these other places are houses with separate space for guests.

Friend has been coming by to help me with little things related to my own housing struggles, which I won't go into here.

Yesterday, he drops into conversation that he has been living in his car (the one with no a/c) for the last couple of weeks. "In the Walmart parking lot."

It's dangerously hot here. Like WAY hot, so I told him to stay last night.

He hasn't woken up yet, and I suspect he needs sleep more than I need to make noise.

He is clearly depressed, and has a therapist he has not seen. He is in program but is not going to meetings. He qualifies for unemployment, but has not applied.

I've coached him as much as I can, including strategies for reaching out to his family...most of whom he does not connect with well.

There are resources for him. I, personally, cannot support him.

Ideas for quick resources?

I really don't want him to end up in the shelter system, but I'm a bit flummoxed.


Laura - Aug 12, 2016 5:37:37 am PDT #25778 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Ugh, Bonny, not good for either of you. Obviously he needs to get back on track in many ways. Tough love mothering to make him take responsibility? Making him make the lists of options to examine in detail? No idea on what actual resources are available.


WindSparrow - Aug 12, 2016 5:53:22 am PDT #25779 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

When depression or other challenges fox someone's executive functioning, it really makes things exponentially harder, doesn't it? Unfortunately the only tool I have for helping someone else's executive function is "let's do it together". Sometimes once they get moving, they can keep moving. Sometimes it's more like you have to do it all for them, dragging them along for the ride. But it's one thing when my role in someone's life is as paid caregiver, and another entirely when you have a guy crashing on your sofa.


Zenkitty - Aug 12, 2016 7:42:54 am PDT #25780 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

bonny, people used to crash-land in my yuge old house all the time. I was soft-hearted and bad at setting boundaries. It's really hard to hear "I don't have anywhere else to go!" and not feel like you need to help. But the problems that brought them to this point aren't going to go away because you gave them crash space. You're not his mom or his girlfriend or his therapist, it's not your job to prop up his collapsing life, and it's unreasonable to ask you to. He almost certainly has mental/emotional problems, but can you realistically help him with that, right here right now? You can try helping, tough love or whatever, but realize that the more you engage with his problems, the harder it will be to pull away, and the harder he'll try to hold on to you. My advice is, don't set yourself up as his caretaker. You've taken care of his car and given him crash space (and probably food), and you've coached him as much as you can. You're done, and he needs to leave. He has other people he can stay with. There are homeless shelters in DC. He CAN live in his car, which is miserable but he's already done it and survived. He is not the bleeding victim on the roadside, you don't have to be the Good Samaritan. He survived his grand tour on his motorcycle, he can find a place to stay. He has other options than your couch; if he doesn't want to consider those options, that is not your problem. And if he's helping you with other things, maybe you need to reconsider that also; you may be setting yourself up for obligations to a black hole of need.

Needy people will grasp whichever rock appears first, and they're too scared to let go. Don't be the rock for someone you don't want in your life for a very long time. It's a lovely thought, that you can lend a hand and help get someone back on his feet, but it usually doesn't play out that way, instead of standing up they become a barnacle you have to pry off.


Connie Neil - Aug 12, 2016 8:09:53 am PDT #25781 of 30002
brillig

Zen needs a Like button.