Mal: I call you back? Wash: No, Mal. You didn't. Zoe: I take full responsibility, cap.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:08:46 am PST #4464 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sounds like it started in the school office as a confrontation between the parent-shooter and the principal. Some reports saying they heard cursing and screaming over the PA system.

Newtown has an emergency Text notice system so all parents were notified immediately.

Kids lead out of the school were told to hold hands and close their eyes.


flea - Dec 14, 2012 9:08:58 am PST #4465 of 30001
information libertarian

Yeah, there is a safety freak at our school who was worried about local drug users entering the school (we live in a really wealthy neighborhood - I am sure there are local drug users, but suspect they are mostly doing cocaine and driving their BMWs around). I told her parents were the most dangerous people at any school. I am avoiding her at pickup today for sure. Actually, she has probably gone and pulled her kid out of school early.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:10:19 am PST #4466 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I wonder if they'll change the set-up at Matilda's school. It's very open and that is a big part of why it sort of flows with the community. Would hate to lose that.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:14:10 am PST #4467 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A body was found inside the home of the shooter, possibly his mother.

I wonder if she tried to stop him?


Amy - Dec 14, 2012 9:20:52 am PST #4468 of 30001
Because books.

Now CBS is saying that the shooter was not a parent.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:21:27 am PST #4469 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Shooter's name was Ryan Lanza, age 20.


Amy - Dec 14, 2012 9:26:27 am PST #4470 of 30001
Because books.

What's confusing to me is that they're giving the number of people dead, but saying a whole classroom is unaccounted for. Does that mean we're looking possibly twenty more dead?

Now they're saying he's 24 and lived in Hoboken, but had grown up in the community.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:28:27 am PST #4471 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I saw one report saying he was a student-teacher.

correction: Looks like he killed his mom before he went on his spree. Looks like his mom worked at the school and was killed there. That may be his connection with the school.

He's dead now, so we can't interrogate him, though I guess something will come out.


meara - Dec 14, 2012 9:31:42 am PST #4472 of 30001

...I think there's not much point in speculating or reporting about every possible rumor. News organizations these days report every last hint of a detail and half of it turns out wrong. Like in Portland the other day, when it was all "OMG, two shooters! Body armor! Dozens dead!" and it was one guy, no body armor, and two (besides him)...but there were fluctuating rumors for hours.


Burrell - Dec 14, 2012 9:32:04 am PST #4473 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

When the reports were saying the shooter was only 20 I figured too young to be a parent. And I guess only one shooter, not 2? But 4 weapons found on the scene?

What's confusing to me is that they're giving the number of people dead, but saying a whole classroom is unaccounted for. Does that mean we're looking possibly twenty more dead?

That's been confusing to me too, and I so hope there aren't more dead. I know I shouldn't picture what if it were my kids, but it's so hard not to do it.