Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty flowered bonnet, I will end you.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:21:27 am PST #4469 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Shooter's name was Ryan Lanza, age 20.


Amy - Dec 14, 2012 9:26:27 am PST #4470 of 30001
Because books.

What's confusing to me is that they're giving the number of people dead, but saying a whole classroom is unaccounted for. Does that mean we're looking possibly twenty more dead?

Now they're saying he's 24 and lived in Hoboken, but had grown up in the community.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:28:27 am PST #4471 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I saw one report saying he was a student-teacher.

correction: Looks like he killed his mom before he went on his spree. Looks like his mom worked at the school and was killed there. That may be his connection with the school.

He's dead now, so we can't interrogate him, though I guess something will come out.


meara - Dec 14, 2012 9:31:42 am PST #4472 of 30001

...I think there's not much point in speculating or reporting about every possible rumor. News organizations these days report every last hint of a detail and half of it turns out wrong. Like in Portland the other day, when it was all "OMG, two shooters! Body armor! Dozens dead!" and it was one guy, no body armor, and two (besides him)...but there were fluctuating rumors for hours.


Burrell - Dec 14, 2012 9:32:04 am PST #4473 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

When the reports were saying the shooter was only 20 I figured too young to be a parent. And I guess only one shooter, not 2? But 4 weapons found on the scene?

What's confusing to me is that they're giving the number of people dead, but saying a whole classroom is unaccounted for. Does that mean we're looking possibly twenty more dead?

That's been confusing to me too, and I so hope there aren't more dead. I know I shouldn't picture what if it were my kids, but it's so hard not to do it.


amyth - Dec 14, 2012 9:32:22 am PST #4474 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Heard on Facebook from a friend in CT that his mom was a kindergarten teacher there. Andy Carvin from NPR posted on Twitter that CBS said that he may have killed his father in NJ first before heading to CT.

This feels like a game of horror telephone.


Burrell - Dec 14, 2012 9:33:24 am PST #4475 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

...I think there's not much point in speculating or reporting about every possible rumor.

you have a good point


flea - Dec 14, 2012 9:34:32 am PST #4476 of 30001
information libertarian

NYT is saying all the children killed were in the shooter's mother's classroom (18), so that could account for the "missing class" reportage. There was a whole class killed, but no other children killed.

I just want to honor all those teachers - apparently 8 of them - who were killed trying to defend their students. I am sure the teachers I know would have done the same.


Jessica - Dec 14, 2012 9:34:40 am PST #4477 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think there's not much point in speculating or reporting about every possible rumor.

I completely agree.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:35:32 am PST #4478 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

...I think there's not much point in speculating or reporting about every possible rumor.

Sorry, but the confirmed news isn't coming through very quickly.

And...

Heard on Facebook from a friend in CT that his mom was a kindergarten teacher there. Andy Carvin from NPR posted on Twitter that CBS said that he may have killed his father in NJ first before heading to CT.

This gives me more context. Just my way of dealing with it.