Could just be a hoax, though. I fake some headaches, everyone gets used to poor helpless Spike. Then one day, no warning, I snap a spine, bend a head back, drain 'em dry. Brilliant.

Spike ,'Potential'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 08, 2013 6:03:34 pm PDT #21896 of 30001

Fuck. Sex-abuse allegations at the catholic school Miss P and her brothers go to. And my friend, her mom, just took off 2 weeks to head their annual fundraiser. Uhg.


msbelle - May 08, 2013 6:03:53 pm PDT #21897 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

YAY AMY FOR S job!


Amy - May 08, 2013 6:21:13 pm PDT #21898 of 30001
Because books.

Hey, and yay you for new job, and enthusiastic new coworkers, no more awful boss!

Oh, sara, that's awful.


Kat - May 08, 2013 6:29:35 pm PDT #21899 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And the article was all "It's so important for kids to have freedom!" and made it sound like GAWD, why doesn't everyone just do what the NOMADS do and let the KIDS BE KIDS. And I"m like "yeah, that's great until the kid has to make it to daycare and mom's going to be late for work..."

HA! a coworker has a 3 year old who won't get into bed until after 9 and won't sleep until 11 and then gets out of bed and goes into their room. And he feels like he needs to put a lock on the door to set boundaries. But they have never left this kid with other people, not even family. They gave up a Y membership because the kid wouldn't tolerate the gym kid watch.

I explained my kids were sleep trained by really expensive nurses who had Noah on a 3 hour schedule when he came home. They still sleep for 11 hours a night and are in bed by 7:00 on most every night (except tonight because Noah went to watch hockey). My kids have tons of issues but sleeping isn't yet one of them.

YAY for Amy's good news!


sj - May 08, 2013 6:41:46 pm PDT #21900 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Yay for Amy's DH!


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:42:23 pm PDT #21901 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I was talking to a friend yesterday, who related the bedtime routine of other friends she visited recently.

Mom: It's time for bed. (7:30)

The two kids: (5 & 7 years old) Walk up stairs, brush their teeth, get into bed. Sleep.

Guests & parents: never moved from the table.

How is that even possible?

No books, no songs, no playtime, no conversation, no requests for water, no struggle. Just sleep.

I've worked with a lot of families and I can honestly say, I have never, ever heard this working before.


DavidS - May 08, 2013 6:47:19 pm PDT #21902 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How is that even possible?

Depends on the kids, honestly. Just like some adults sleep more easily than others.

JZ used to babysit a kid (2 y.o.) who would just announce he was tired, take his blanket and go take a nap.


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:51:07 pm PDT #21903 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Yeah. I once babysat a nightmare toddler who punched me, said "Bed now" and immediately passed out. BUT, that was after, like 15 books and a monumental struggle over exactly where he'd go to sleep.

In the related scenario, I'm amazed that the parents don't indulge any routine and that they trust the kids so much as to not even move from their seats at bed time.

I think I might have control issues.


sarameg - May 08, 2013 6:59:02 pm PDT #21904 of 30001

One of my nephews almost always puts himself to bed. He knows when he's done, he takes himself. The other can fall asleep on the way to bed, insisting on being up and he's almost 11. I can only wish I had their sleep control.


DavidS - May 08, 2013 6:59:19 pm PDT #21905 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think I might have control issues.

Oh, have you seen the "play the ball wherever the monkey drops it" story that's been going around? I actually thought of you when I saw it.