This is a time of celebration, so sit still and be quiet.

Snyder ,'Chosen'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - May 08, 2013 5:24:24 pm PDT #21892 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Google's Doodle today is AWESOME.


meara - May 08, 2013 5:32:32 pm PDT #21893 of 30001

I was reading something someone linked (here? FB?) the other day about other societies, and how in many of the more rural/hunter-gatherer/nomadic groups, kids are given much much more freedom, in terms of roaming around but also in staying up all night and eating when they want, etc. And the article was all "It's so important for kids to have freedom!" and made it sound like GAWD, why doesn't everyone just do what the NOMADS do and let the KIDS BE KIDS. And I"m like "yeah, that's great until the kid has to make it to daycare and mom's going to be late for work..."


meara - May 08, 2013 5:48:18 pm PDT #21894 of 30001

Woohoo! Hyperbole and a Half is back! Or at least, she posted a thing saying she's going to post a thing!


billytea - May 08, 2013 5:53:27 pm PDT #21895 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Woohoo! Hyperbole and a Half is back! Or at least, she posted a thing saying she's going to post a thing!

I came across an article a couple of weeks back saying that her book should be out this year.


sarameg - May 08, 2013 6:03:34 pm PDT #21896 of 30001

Fuck. Sex-abuse allegations at the catholic school Miss P and her brothers go to. And my friend, her mom, just took off 2 weeks to head their annual fundraiser. Uhg.


msbelle - May 08, 2013 6:03:53 pm PDT #21897 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

YAY AMY FOR S job!


Amy - May 08, 2013 6:21:13 pm PDT #21898 of 30001
Because books.

Hey, and yay you for new job, and enthusiastic new coworkers, no more awful boss!

Oh, sara, that's awful.


Kat - May 08, 2013 6:29:35 pm PDT #21899 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And the article was all "It's so important for kids to have freedom!" and made it sound like GAWD, why doesn't everyone just do what the NOMADS do and let the KIDS BE KIDS. And I"m like "yeah, that's great until the kid has to make it to daycare and mom's going to be late for work..."

HA! a coworker has a 3 year old who won't get into bed until after 9 and won't sleep until 11 and then gets out of bed and goes into their room. And he feels like he needs to put a lock on the door to set boundaries. But they have never left this kid with other people, not even family. They gave up a Y membership because the kid wouldn't tolerate the gym kid watch.

I explained my kids were sleep trained by really expensive nurses who had Noah on a 3 hour schedule when he came home. They still sleep for 11 hours a night and are in bed by 7:00 on most every night (except tonight because Noah went to watch hockey). My kids have tons of issues but sleeping isn't yet one of them.

YAY for Amy's good news!


sj - May 08, 2013 6:41:46 pm PDT #21900 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Yay for Amy's DH!


beekaytee - May 08, 2013 6:42:23 pm PDT #21901 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I was talking to a friend yesterday, who related the bedtime routine of other friends she visited recently.

Mom: It's time for bed. (7:30)

The two kids: (5 & 7 years old) Walk up stairs, brush their teeth, get into bed. Sleep.

Guests & parents: never moved from the table.

How is that even possible?

No books, no songs, no playtime, no conversation, no requests for water, no struggle. Just sleep.

I've worked with a lot of families and I can honestly say, I have never, ever heard this working before.