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Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Mar 28, 2013 6:57:23 am PDT #16332 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If I thought I were seriously being cruel or hurtful, I'd feel worse about this. But, honestly, if she delivered, if her learning period wasn't a year and counting, if she didn't say things like "well, I don't know that, find another developer" when she knows it's not knowledge anyone has--she just doesn't want to learn...

You can be fucking sure I told him that stuff. Fuck "throwing her under the bus." It's funny that she's clearly been complaining about me, and one of the problems is that I stop communicating and either hand her the solution (from myself, or getting someone else to fix it), or do the work myself, instead of stopping at the analysis like a good little analyst.

Ugh, ita. That all is so reminiscient of my failing team member last year. The defensiveness, the refusal to really learn, or to own the fact that she didn't know or couldn't handle key parts of her job, the blaming things on not being communicated with or hand held enough. I was very lucky in that she reported to me, and my boss was behind me 100%.

Oh, but did I mention here that I got reported to the global ethics hotline because it was just so unfair to fire such a hard worker for no reason at all?


Steph L. - Mar 28, 2013 6:58:19 am PDT #16333 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I got reported to the global ethics hotline

Dang, *global*? That's...actually kind of impressive. (And, of course, ridiculous.)


Laura - Mar 28, 2013 7:07:06 am PDT #16334 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I got reported to the global ethics hotline

Umm, high five?

I notice the highly defensive people pretty quickly because it is a personal character flaw. I'm working on it, but it is my first reaction when stuff blows up.


brenda m - Mar 28, 2013 7:10:22 am PDT #16335 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, that was fun. But everything was documented (performance improvement plans, crappy annual review scores, stakeholder feedback) etc. so it wasn't anything to worry about. My boss laughed.


le nubian - Mar 28, 2013 7:11:07 am PDT #16336 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I also know some people who get defensive quickly, but then they chill out and get to work. It is like a momentary freak out. I wish you had more of those, Laura.


Consuela - Mar 28, 2013 7:20:12 am PDT #16337 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

OK, back in the office. Only one comment on my hair. People here are weird.

I should keep a log of all the shit that comes in that my successor won't know how to deal with.

1. Question about solar panels at a site we transferred to NPS five years ago.

2. Question about justifying removing an obsolete piece of equipment worth $2M from a property we're giving to USAF.

3. Question about status of project in project-tracking software.


tommyrot - Mar 28, 2013 7:24:57 am PDT #16338 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I like working with my boss. We both know that everybody makes mistakes, so we both have no problem admitting when we screwed up. While my boss has gotten mad at me for slacking off, he's never been mad at me for a mistake.


msbelle - Mar 28, 2013 7:26:37 am PDT #16339 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I'm impressed you have an ethics hotline. What I wouldn't do for an ombudsperson.


msbelle - Mar 28, 2013 7:28:54 am PDT #16340 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Some people here seem really unsettled and annoyed that I will freely admit a mistake when I make it. My boss is, of course, top of the list. It's like a character flaw in his eyes.


brenda m - Mar 28, 2013 7:32:00 am PDT #16341 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm impressed you have an ethics hotline. What I wouldn't do for an ombudsperson.

I swear my biggest takeaway from the whole thing was I was glad to get an inside look, so to speak, at the process.

Some people here seem really unsettled and annoyed that I will freely admit a mistake when I make it.

That's something I've had to learn to do, but it's been pretty staggering how much less stressful it usually is than sitting around wondering if anyone noticed or if shit is about to rain down on you.