SCOTUSblog and other news outlets now have the transcript and audio up from today's argument.

This is consistent with what some of the Supremes have been saying about Roe v. Wade - that it was too much, too soon and should have been played out on a state by state basis.

Living in Georgia all these years has not made me a fan of states' deciding anything about fundamental rights. If it were up to the state, Dairy Queens would probably still have "colored" and "white" windows.

I am old enough to remember when only New York and, IIRC, Hawaii allowed abortion. New York was the destination of choice for people I knew, anyway. Legalizing abortion state by state meant that people with the money for the airfare and the procedure could get abortions, but people with limited means effectively could not.

It applies even less in same-sex marriage. At least if you go to another state to get an abortion, you don't get the fetus back when you cross the state line. Same-sex couples can't get married in Massachusetts and stay married in Georgia.

Also, rights are not supposed to be subject to majority rule.

Legalizing abortion state by state meant that people with the money for the airfare and the procedure could get abortions, but people with limited means effectively could not.

And of course, it's the same thing again now, as states un-legalize it.

This is consistent with what some of the Supremes have been saying about Roe v. Wade - that it was too much, too soon and should have been played out on a state by state basis. That it would have been less polarizing that way.

Yeah, I saw that. And the person mentioning it was like "and I'm sure racists would've preferred slavery ended in a more gradual way, but that doesn't mean it would be RIGHT...why pander to assholes who will be angry at some point no matter what?"

Seriously. I think the stalwart bigots are going to be frothing at the mouth over being thwarted in any way, up to and including not being able to have whoever they want arrested for "rubbing deviant lifestyles in their faces" by holding hands and whatnot. Instead of appeasing them, hand them their asses in court and then let them spend all their energy in a losing battle to undo it through legislation when public opinion is rapidly tilting in favor of equal rights and right-wing candidates are losing votes over the issue.

"and I'm sure racists would've preferred slavery ended in a more gradual way, but that doesn't mean it would be RIGHT...why pander to assholes who will be angry at some point no matter what?"

That's pretty much what came to mind--if it's a right (and thusly important), how tenable is waiting? Would I rather be a free person and racists are really pissed, than a slave and racists are kinda pissed? I'm only gonna go one way on that, really.

Of course, there were decades of agitating for the end of slavery before it actually happened. And don't forget that Lincoln thought (at one time) that the best idea was just to get rid of the black people in America altogether.

NY Times graphic on the various outcomes from the two marriage equality cases: [link]

That's pretty much what came to mind--if it's a right (and thusly important), how tenable is waiting? Would I rather be a free person and racists are really pissed, than a slave and racists are kinda pissed? I'm only gonna go one way on that, really.

Yeah, there's really only that one way to go there.

afternoon malaise is setting in, so I am online shoes window shopping:

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