Seriously. I think the stalwart bigots are going to be frothing at the mouth over being thwarted in any way, up to and including not being able to have whoever they want arrested for "rubbing deviant lifestyles in their faces" by holding hands and whatnot. Instead of appeasing them, hand them their asses in court and then let them spend all their energy in a losing battle to undo it through legislation when public opinion is rapidly tilting in favor of equal rights and right-wing candidates are losing votes over the issue.
I have finesse! I have finesse coming out of my bottom!
Anya ,'Showtime'
Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 26, 2013 8:38:57 am PDT #16098 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2013 8:50:27 am PDT #16099 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
"and I'm sure racists would've preferred slavery ended in a more gradual way, but that doesn't mean it would be RIGHT...why pander to assholes who will be angry at some point no matter what?"
That's pretty much what came to mind--if it's a right (and thusly important), how tenable is waiting? Would I rather be a free person and racists are really pissed, than a slave and racists are kinda pissed? I'm only gonna go one way on that, really.
Jesse - Mar 26, 2013 8:54:19 am PDT #16100 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Of course, there were decades of agitating for the end of slavery before it actually happened. And don't forget that Lincoln thought (at one time) that the best idea was just to get rid of the black people in America altogether.
Consuela - Mar 26, 2013 8:58:37 am PDT #16101 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
NY Times graphic on the various outcomes from the two marriage equality cases: [link]
P.M. Marc - Mar 26, 2013 8:59:00 am PDT #16102 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
That's pretty much what came to mind--if it's a right (and thusly important), how tenable is waiting? Would I rather be a free person and racists are really pissed, than a slave and racists are kinda pissed? I'm only gonna go one way on that, really.
Yeah, there's really only that one way to go there.
msbelle - Mar 26, 2013 10:56:31 am PDT #16103 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
afternoon malaise is setting in, so I am online shoes window shopping:
grabby hands, want
Jesse - Mar 26, 2013 11:13:28 am PDT #16104 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Related to shopping, do you people have opinions about the best way to use credit card/bank points? I feel like most rewards are about the same value per point, except for occasional sales. Mostly right now I'm trying to decide between cashing in the medium amount of points I have for a Lands' End (or similar) gift certificate (money I would probably spend anyway, at some point), or save it until it's enough for a plane ticket (also probably money I would spend anyway).
Strategies?? I have both Citi Thank You and Discover rewards.
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2013 11:23:25 am PDT #16105 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
there were decades of agitating for the end of slavery before it actually happened
How would that affect my answer? How would it affect the commitment with which I as an ally would agitate for right now? Trying to talk someone into equality later is a sucker's bet.
I just got thrown under the bus by the incompetent developer and had everyone in management drill home that we're lowering expectations even further, so please stop driving improvements to completion, the developers don't like it, and management is confused.
Hearing that from boss and manager at the same time, all the while manager doesn't explain she was part of the meetings whose conclusions were being questioned...depressing as fuck. I'm curious about what I'll actually say in my one on one with her tomorrow.
le nubian - Mar 26, 2013 11:40:36 am PDT #16106 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Jesse,
At some point several years ago, I tried to get a sense of rewards cards and my spending, etc. I had an airlines rewards card at the time.
I was getting XXX points on the rewards cards with every purchase toward a plane ticket, but if I had used a cash back card, I would have gotten all of that in cash. The rewards cards was inconvenient in terms of when I could book travel (and IF) and in my analysis, it seemed better to go with cash because then I could spend it however I saw foot.
All of my cards now are cash cards - the other thing is the airlines cards were a fee per year that I didn't think at the time was worth it.
Discover has extra 5% cashback deals that rotate every 3 months, but not every merchant uses them.
Not sure if this is what you were looking for...
Jesse - Mar 26, 2013 11:45:51 am PDT #16107 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
How would that affect my answer? How would it affect the commitment with which I as an ally would agitate for right now? Trying to talk someone into equality later is a sucker's bet.
Oh, of course -- I'm just saying it happened all at once, but only after a long time of organizing and agitating.
All of my cards now are cash cards - the other thing is the airlines cards were a fee per year that I didn't think at the time was worth it.
Yeah, I wouldn't pay an annual fee -- not worth it to me. The rewards are "cash" I guess, but there are so many ways to cash them out! (And gift cards get you more $$ than actual cash.)