Most of the people I've seen describe their liking of MPREG have said they have a body horror appreciation of it. But these were not people who described it as a kink, just as a narrative interest. Not sure how different those two groups are.

Oh, yes. Don't read the comments on the Wired article about the Kickstarter thing. It's very depressing. And just from an intellectual perspective, I am astonished at how little any of these people learned from their Sociology 101 classes...

And here, how about this? Salma Hayek is such a cow that this magazine clearly had to Photoshop her on the cover. Now she looks like her waist is only slightly bigger than her neck.

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MPREG sometimes seem like an anvilicious gender definition of the victim. As in, "I want these two pretty boys together, but I want to make sure everyone knows I think X should be the feminine partner."

Hustle is in its sixth season, for real? I thought that show just started. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong one -- is this Kristin Bell and Don Cheadle?

That's House of Lies. Hustle is British, and I didn't know it was still on...

Does anyone here like MPREG? Do you feel it's the same psychology as the forced/alien impregnation trope where the victim is female?

I'm either having a hard time figuring out how a man being *able* to get pregnant is comparable to *forcing* a woman into pregnancy or ... no, that's precisely where I have a hard time. Unless it is forced MPREG. But then the emphasis should be on the forced, not the M of the preg.

People disappoint me.

Boston (and surrounding environs) gets a lot of shittalk about bad driving but people there drive with PURPOSE. We just get agitated if you don't have a plan too. Really, a lot agitated. And turn signals, you can't put those on until just before you turn, because it's a sign of weakness and you are GIVING YOUR WHOLE STRATEGY AWAY.

Conversely I find that driving in New Orleans merely results in me being royally pissed off, whereas Boston scared me out of ever driving there again and I white knuckle it as a passenger in anything smaller than a bus.

Unless it is forced MPREG

Most of the MPREG I've encountered has been unexpected pregnancies. It's not rare by a long shot, at least not in Supernatural fandom. Dean doesn't know that's how Nephilim are conceived and he doesn't have the power to terminate a half-angelic baby...that sort of stuff.

Putting emphasis on the forced comes hand in hand with body horror, so that's not rare either--it's the only sort of MPREG enjoyment I've seen explained, in fact.

The heteronormativity of much slash never fails to amaze me. Such an investment in penetration being dominance, but from the people *I* had assumed would know that was not inherent--the people traditionally penetrated. Once it sunk in, I started feeling alienated, to be honest. It hadn't occurred to me that was such a pervasive interpretation of sex, *including* from straight women.

I mean, for most of us, that's much of our sex life. How can it always be that power distribution...no, I still don't get it.

Hustle is in season 8 now. The episode I just watched was season 6. I went back to it when people started calling Leverage a ripoff, and boy are they knee jerk and missing a whole bunch. *So* not similar. Irritates me.

Oh, I had to unfollow OKCenemies. A couple to many "I don't like Hitler, but I liked his solution" shit out there. I wonder of OKC is a decent place to find a cash pig.

Thank you for all your good wishes, folks; you're the best. I miss you all.