Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sumi - Jun 08, 2012 9:13:14 am PDT #8925 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I am sad about I'll Have Another AND Car Talk.

But it's kind of nice that they're going to have I'll Have Another (and Lavaman) lead the post parade.

Dullahan is the new favorite with Union Rags as second favorite.


Jesse - Jun 08, 2012 9:16:56 am PDT #8926 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

They will still be making new episodes of Car Talk, it sounds like, with old tape and some new bits.


sumi - Jun 08, 2012 9:17:55 am PDT #8927 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Jilli - when you get your sled/hearse you will then need to get a nice pair of Friesians to pull it.


Consuela - Jun 08, 2012 9:19:19 am PDT #8928 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't think that it's a done deal that society accepts Billy has two Daddies, one of whom comes to PTA meetings and the other one who makes cookies for the bake sale. And when they both chaperone the prom, they steal some time for a slow dance.

Oh, I totally agree with that. But I think that PTA-meeting Daddies will get acceptance more quickly than bump-and-grind Daddies. I guess.

Most of those homophobes probably don't accept that in straight people either.

Exactly.

Although Matt has an excellent point, that the very non-threatening image conveyed by PTA-Daddies has thrown the hard-core homophobes into a tizzy, because they know as well as we do that being unthreatening is a first step to acceptance (for some folks).


Dana - Jun 08, 2012 9:23:35 am PDT #8929 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Adventures from working at home: A commercial on Animal Planet for "Colon Flow". For humans, not animals.


Consuela - Jun 08, 2012 9:24:35 am PDT #8930 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, ew, Dana.


tommyrot - Jun 08, 2012 9:26:25 am PDT #8931 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Sorta like Colon Blow on SNL?


meara - Jun 08, 2012 9:28:34 am PDT #8932 of 30001

Yeah, I think definitely more people are OK with Bob and Tom down the street who wear sweater vests and seem very nice and keep their lawn mowed, and way fewer people are comfortable with that middle-aged guy in the apartment down the hall who walks outside in chaps and a vest to go to the bar at night. But there are definitely people who don't like Bob and Tom, either.

That said, I definitely think there's opposing forces within the gay community--some want Bob and Tom and that nice Lisa and Jan who have the cute baby to be the face of the gay community, even during Pride, because it's easier for America to empathize with. And others who are like "No, fuck the homophobes, the drag queens and dykes on bikes are not only part of our community, they're the part that STARTED this whole fucking Pride thing, and if you disavow them, you're just as bad as the homophobes". Which I have to sympathize with.


Dana - Jun 08, 2012 9:30:46 am PDT #8933 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Sorta like Colon Blow on SNL?

That's exactly what I thought of.


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 9:33:54 am PDT #8934 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think homophobes find it easy to accept gay people of any sort

Well, yes, there is that. I totally didn't mean to imply there were "allowed gayness" criteria, or anything. Just that there's a level of comfort when the icky people are easily spotted and treated badly.

Suppose you let one sit next to you on the bus???? No, if they're wearing chaps, you can pearl clutch and stalk off to the other side of the vehicle.