Don't worry, I'm not gonna start any sword fights. I'm over that phase.

Mal ,'War Stories'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Nov 04, 2012 8:38:45 pm PST #28586 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Aww, that's a nice thought, Debet, thank you. I'll figure it out. It'll probably be fine leaving them with my folks. I guess I'll just see how the kids do over Thanksgiving and I can play the tour by ear.


Trudy Booth - Nov 04, 2012 8:46:17 pm PST #28587 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think I just stepped over the line on Facebook. No way to pull back.

Go git 'em, Tiger!


Burrell - Nov 04, 2012 8:48:18 pm PST #28588 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I am pro labeling, Lee. If only because Monsanto is financing the No on 37 campaign.

Right now labeling will mostly affect boxed food and packaged foods, because usually things like corn used to make HFCS, soy and corn oil, etc, will be GMO varieties. So right now I assume if I buy something in a box and it isn't explicitly label non-GMO then it has GMOs in it. But produce? How do I tell a GMO tomato from a non-GMO tomato? I mean I get that I've been buying GMO produce unaware, but I'd like to make that choice for myself. And they are pushing the FDA to start selling GMO salmon, and if that gets the OK I am sure they already have GMO beef and GMO chicken lined up.


Lee - Nov 04, 2012 9:08:33 pm PST #28589 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I would normally be in favor of the labeling too, but I have issues with the proposition as written. It just seems sloppy.


Cass - Nov 04, 2012 9:09:09 pm PST #28590 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

California people, are you thinking yes or no on prop 37 (the GMO food labeling)?

Yes, though it is a flawed bill and has gaping loopholes.

And they are pushing the FDA to start selling GMO salmon, and if that gets the OK I am sure they already have GMO beef and GMO chicken lined up.

Dairy and meat are the two big exceptions. Given how much grain goes to feed animals? Problem.

But I think it's better to have labeling. GMO foods have been around for a long time and we're eating them every day. I also think that they aren't intrinsically bad or unhealthy. The bill will not going to magically make them go away but I always side on an informed populace.


Cass - Nov 04, 2012 9:10:23 pm PST #28591 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

It just seems sloppy.

Oh, it is.


Burrell - Nov 04, 2012 9:14:39 pm PST #28592 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Given how much grain goes to feed animals? Problem.

True


javachik - Nov 04, 2012 9:17:42 pm PST #28593 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

It's very sloppy. And I'm generally pro-information but this proposition is a definite "no" for me. I'd write more but I hate writing on my iPhone.


Lee - Nov 04, 2012 9:21:30 pm PST #28594 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think I am going to be a no too. I'd rather wait for a better version than have this one in place.


bon bon - Nov 04, 2012 9:37:44 pm PST #28595 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

No on 37. Gmo isn't really a risk, and the point of the prop is to create an extortive private right of action for plaintiff's attorneys.