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Snyder ,'Chosen'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Oct 22, 2012 6:48:39 am PDT #26561 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

yeah pro-life is a big enough single issue to pull a lot of votes from people I know down here.

Then there is also the really strongly held belief that Obama or really any Democrat wants to take their money and give it to lazy people who lie and cheat the system.

No, I do not get it, like at all. Especially with facts about tax rates being lower in recent years and Romney making money from abortions and not being anti-choice in MA and and and.


Calli - Oct 22, 2012 6:53:19 am PDT #26562 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Then there is also the really strongly held belief that Obama or really any Democrat wants to take their money and give it to lazy people who lie and cheat the system.

Which is kind of amusing (for carefully calibrated definitions of amusing), since the most red states are also the ones that get the most government money. So the people they seem to hold in contempt are themselves.


Cashmere - Oct 22, 2012 6:53:44 am PDT #26563 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Good luck, ita.

So, Zachary Quinto was here in town yesterday at the local university for a get out the vote campaign. Everyone failed to tell me this.


meara - Oct 22, 2012 6:54:56 am PDT #26564 of 30001

Morning. Hate Mondays. Boo. Not awake. Not wanting to pack and head to the airport.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 22, 2012 6:58:32 am PDT #26565 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Why is Jesse yelling? It is still morning!


lisah - Oct 22, 2012 7:04:22 am PDT #26566 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Good luck today, ita. I just read a story by a woman who got a neurostimulator to treat her intractable migraines. It is in this month's Marie Claire. Her name is Tia Williams, she is a beauty writer, I think.


msbelle - Oct 22, 2012 7:07:52 am PDT #26567 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

So the people they seem to hold in contempt are themselves.

well, at least for the people I know, no. Maybe their neighbors, but it is really usually "others". The people I hear make these arguments are all solidly middle to upper middle class. The people who live on the other side of town, or, more likely, in the city, not the suburbs. Those are the lazy government supported people.


DavidS - Oct 22, 2012 7:14:05 am PDT #26568 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I wish the government would support me. Where's my socialist state, dammit!

I was told there would be jet packs and socialism.


Jessica - Oct 22, 2012 7:17:39 am PDT #26569 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

jet packs and socialism.

Now THERE's a steampunk party theme I can get behind!


msbelle - Oct 22, 2012 7:20:52 am PDT #26570 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I just do not understand the seeming jealousy I hear towards people who get government assistance. STuff like "must be nice." "I wish I got medical care for free."

I have tried to have conversations with people about how living at those standards would not be fun or easy or desirable or everyone would be doing it. And it makes no headway it seems. There is just deep resent from the help being forced from them and it coming from government. I know for many of these people I know, they think charitable organizations, specifically churches should be providing all assistance. Despite proof from a gagillion years that the populous will not voluntarily give enough to help those in need. They only see the poor as greedy, not the rich or comfortable.