Morning. Hate Mondays. Boo. Not awake. Not wanting to pack and head to the airport.
Like any of that's enough to fight the Dark Master. Bator.
Xander ,'Lessons'
Natter 70: Hookers and Blow
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
meara - Oct 22, 2012 6:54:56 am PDT #26564 of 30001
Sophia Brooks - Oct 22, 2012 6:58:32 am PDT #26565 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Why is Jesse yelling? It is still morning!
lisah - Oct 22, 2012 7:04:22 am PDT #26566 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate
Good luck today, ita. I just read a story by a woman who got a neurostimulator to treat her intractable migraines. It is in this month's Marie Claire. Her name is Tia Williams, she is a beauty writer, I think.
msbelle - Oct 22, 2012 7:07:52 am PDT #26567 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
So the people they seem to hold in contempt are themselves.
well, at least for the people I know, no. Maybe their neighbors, but it is really usually "others". The people I hear make these arguments are all solidly middle to upper middle class. The people who live on the other side of town, or, more likely, in the city, not the suburbs. Those are the lazy government supported people.
DavidS - Oct 22, 2012 7:14:05 am PDT #26568 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I wish the government would support me. Where's my socialist state, dammit!
I was told there would be jet packs and socialism.
Jessica - Oct 22, 2012 7:17:39 am PDT #26569 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
jet packs and socialism.
Now THERE's a steampunk party theme I can get behind!
msbelle - Oct 22, 2012 7:20:52 am PDT #26570 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I just do not understand the seeming jealousy I hear towards people who get government assistance. STuff like "must be nice." "I wish I got medical care for free."
I have tried to have conversations with people about how living at those standards would not be fun or easy or desirable or everyone would be doing it. And it makes no headway it seems. There is just deep resent from the help being forced from them and it coming from government. I know for many of these people I know, they think charitable organizations, specifically churches should be providing all assistance. Despite proof from a gagillion years that the populous will not voluntarily give enough to help those in need. They only see the poor as greedy, not the rich or comfortable.
JZ - Oct 22, 2012 7:28:35 am PDT #26571 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
msbelle, possibly you could get some counter-talking-points from this? Unless, of course, it just makes them more furious. Sigh.
(I started trying to pick out the bits of the essay that really gutpunched me, but I ended up copy-n-pasting practically the whole damn thing, which I took as a clue to myself to shut up, link, and let it speak for itself.)
Jesse - Oct 22, 2012 7:41:22 am PDT #26572 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
This is Oregon, but was the easiest one to find. [link]
To qualify for TANF, families must have very few assets and little or no income. The current maximum monthly benefit for a family of three is $506.
Boy, yeah, it must be nice. Trying to raise two kids on $500/month -- that's really living the dream.
THIS IS WHY I'M YELLING, PEOPLE.
msbelle - Oct 22, 2012 7:42:36 am PDT #26573 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
BUT THOSE PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE iPHONES AND DRIVE NEW CARS AND HAVE BRAND NEW SNEAKERS!!