Kaylee ,'Objects In Space'
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Oh, it's good that we can ignore all of the terrible things that happened to black people.
Yes, WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU ALL, denying the white folks their right to celebrate the awesomeness that white folks had during colonialism? Man, it was great to be white back in those days. (See also: New Orleans Council Member Jackie Clarkson refusing to back down from her proclamation that life in New Orleans was so much better and more civilized in the 50s)
I saw Hec's link the other day and was seriously WTF over that. Like, omg this was shortly after WW2, what part of torture and genocide being wrong did you not NOT GET??
And while I agree that steampunk is not in any way required to be historically accurate, I DO think steampunk should be aware and respectful of the problems inherent in it, not just go WHEE CULTURAL APPROPRIATION AND COLONIZATION!
I think there's a rather large gap between "not historically accurate because real Victorian jackets didn't have this many gears glued onto them" and "not historically accurate because if I took a step back and looked at who I'm really cosplaying it wouldn't be fun anymore."
He nodded a lot, and said something along the lines of, "But we're reinterpreting the history the way we want it to, without the awful parts",
Ignoring the atrocities is totally the way to make it okay? That's not even historical fiction, it's just creepy and wrong.
(I mean, personally, I love most steampunk clothes and jewelry. Gears and goggles and parasols and airships make me happy. But I think the being in character all the time thing is creepy and weird, and once you start actually placing your characters in a quasi-historical context, you have, on some level, a responsibility to be honest about what that historical context is.)
points and nods up there ^^^ at Jessica's spicy brains
(I mean, personally, I love most steampunk clothes and jewelry. Gears and goggles and parasols and airships make me happy. But I think the being in character all the time thing is creepy and weird, and once you start actually placing your characters in a quasi-historical context, you have, on some level, a responsibility to be honest about what that historical context is.)
Totally this. Gears are awesome. Lots of that stuff is awesome. Purposely ignoring all context, not so awesome.
points and nods up there ^^^ at Jessica's spicy brains
sits with Amy.
Jessica, this is why I love you. Well, one of the reasons why I love you.
Awww, you guys.