Actually, I was thinking it would be sort of like a pet. You know, we could...we could name her Trixie, or Miss Kitty Fantastico, or something.

Tara ,'Empty Places'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Oct 12, 2012 11:38:37 am PDT #25484 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Awww, you guys.


Calli - Oct 12, 2012 11:43:49 am PDT #25485 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

(I mean, personally, I love most steampunk clothes and jewelry. Gears and goggles and parasols and airships make me happy. But I think the being in character all the time thing is creepy and weird, and once you start actually placing your characters in a quasi-historical context, you have, on some level, a responsibility to be honest about what that historical context is.)

True. Have y'all seen Silver Goggles? It's a blog that's all about racial issues vis a vis steampunk. [link] The latest entry goes in-depth about some recent and not-so-recent racefails in the subculture:

This is a call-out of the steampunk community that will allow this kind of racism to stand.

This is a call-out of the steampunk community that refuses to discuss openly the myriad ways racism manifests in the subculture.

This is a call-out of the steampunk community that remains silent in the face of open racism.

This is a call-out of the subculture I love and of the community I participate in even though it is ever so alienating every passing year.


msbelle - Oct 12, 2012 11:47:31 am PDT #25486 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

How do African American participants in steampunk culture address these issues? I know in NYC, there was quite a growing Steampunk community in Harlem.


Atropa - Oct 12, 2012 11:52:33 am PDT #25487 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Calli, Silver Goggles is one of the blogs I've just started reading, and I really enjoy it.

How do African American participants in steampunk culture address these issues?

I am ashamed to say that I have no clue. The Seattle steampunk scene is ... well, whitebread is putting it gently.

(Shameful disclosure time: when I was in the vampire LARP group, my character was one of the "gypsy" clan of vampires. I am retroactively appalled at myself. I was one of the group that actually researched Roma culture, but that doesn't make it better.)


Consuela - Oct 12, 2012 11:56:28 am PDT #25488 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Jilli, have you read N.K. Jemisin? She has a marvelous femslash steampunk story kicking around, with IIRC a couple of Haitian protagonists; I read it on her website a year or so back and it's also been reprinted in some anthologies.

By which I mean: it's possible to do steampunk without the colonialismYAY attitude.


Atropa - Oct 12, 2012 11:58:08 am PDT #25489 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Jilli, have you read N.K. Jemisin? She has a marvelous femslash steampunk story kicking around, with IIRC a couple of Haitian protagonists;

Ooooh, I haven't! I'll have to check her work out.


hippocampus - Oct 12, 2012 12:00:19 pm PDT #25490 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

I love her books. Love. And her short stories.

I have several toasters for 100k Kingdoms. And am using the Killing Moon as a reward/carrot to egg myself through some edits right now.


Jessica - Oct 12, 2012 12:07:05 pm PDT #25491 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

100k Kingdoms

I have that on my virtual TBR pile.


Jessica - Oct 12, 2012 12:15:18 pm PDT #25492 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In completely other news, my neighbors are redoing their kitchen and I have MAJOR renovation envy. To soothe myself, I am browsing Build It Green and imagining what I could achieve if I had any carpentry or plumbing skills or money whatsoever.

I could replace the hideous pedastal sink in my master bathroom with this!

I could replace the hideous fake wood cabinets in my kitchen with these!

So many possibilities!


Hil R. - Oct 12, 2012 12:19:16 pm PDT #25493 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I could replace the hideous pedastal sink in my master bathroom with this!

I hate pedestal sinks. I've got one in my bathroom, and I've got no storage space -- there's no counter where I can put stuff, and the base of the sink makes it impossible to store stuff underneath.