points and nods up there ^^^ at Jessica's spicy brains
sits with Amy.
But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!
Wash ,'War Stories'
Natter 70: Hookers and Blow
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
hippocampus - Oct 12, 2012 11:35:36 am PDT #25482 of 30001
not your mom's socks.
Atropa - Oct 12, 2012 11:36:52 am PDT #25483 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Jessica, this is why I love you. Well, one of the reasons why I love you.
Jessica - Oct 12, 2012 11:38:37 am PDT #25484 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Awww, you guys.
Calli - Oct 12, 2012 11:43:49 am PDT #25485 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
(I mean, personally, I love most steampunk clothes and jewelry. Gears and goggles and parasols and airships make me happy. But I think the being in character all the time thing is creepy and weird, and once you start actually placing your characters in a quasi-historical context, you have, on some level, a responsibility to be honest about what that historical context is.)
True. Have y'all seen Silver Goggles? It's a blog that's all about racial issues vis a vis steampunk. [link] The latest entry goes in-depth about some recent and not-so-recent racefails in the subculture:
This is a call-out of the steampunk community that will allow this kind of racism to stand.
This is a call-out of the steampunk community that refuses to discuss openly the myriad ways racism manifests in the subculture.
This is a call-out of the steampunk community that remains silent in the face of open racism.
This is a call-out of the subculture I love and of the community I participate in even though it is ever so alienating every passing year.
msbelle - Oct 12, 2012 11:47:31 am PDT #25486 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
How do African American participants in steampunk culture address these issues? I know in NYC, there was quite a growing Steampunk community in Harlem.
Atropa - Oct 12, 2012 11:52:33 am PDT #25487 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Calli, Silver Goggles is one of the blogs I've just started reading, and I really enjoy it.
How do African American participants in steampunk culture address these issues?
I am ashamed to say that I have no clue. The Seattle steampunk scene is ... well, whitebread is putting it gently.
(Shameful disclosure time: when I was in the vampire LARP group, my character was one of the "gypsy" clan of vampires. I am retroactively appalled at myself. I was one of the group that actually researched Roma culture, but that doesn't make it better.)
Consuela - Oct 12, 2012 11:56:28 am PDT #25488 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Jilli, have you read N.K. Jemisin? She has a marvelous femslash steampunk story kicking around, with IIRC a couple of Haitian protagonists; I read it on her website a year or so back and it's also been reprinted in some anthologies.
By which I mean: it's possible to do steampunk without the colonialismYAY attitude.
Atropa - Oct 12, 2012 11:58:08 am PDT #25489 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Jilli, have you read N.K. Jemisin? She has a marvelous femslash steampunk story kicking around, with IIRC a couple of Haitian protagonists;
Ooooh, I haven't! I'll have to check her work out.
hippocampus - Oct 12, 2012 12:00:19 pm PDT #25490 of 30001
not your mom's socks.
I love her books. Love. And her short stories.
I have several toasters for 100k Kingdoms. And am using the Killing Moon as a reward/carrot to egg myself through some edits right now.
Jessica - Oct 12, 2012 12:07:05 pm PDT #25491 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
100k Kingdoms
I have that on my virtual TBR pile.