Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 24, 2012 11:13:01 pm PDT #19395 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Personally, I think it's ridiculous to classify someone's own living blood as a controlled substance. If Lance had been attacking onlookers during the race and taking some of theirs it'd be another matter.


brenda m - Aug 25, 2012 4:00:12 am PDT #19396 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Personally, I think it's ridiculous to classify someone's own living blood as a controlled substance. If Lance had been attacking onlookers during the race and taking some of theirs it'd be another matter.

Though it would make the Tour more interesting to watch.

Floyd Landis nd others have called for legalization of blood doping. Is it really that different than all the crazy biomechanics based traing that goes on now? Or the athletes who train extensively at high altitudes to get an oxygen boost when they race at sea level? Another step along, sure, but not like taking steroids. And stamping it out pushes people to ever more dangerous substances.

Plus it's seriously kind of neat. Science!


amych - Aug 25, 2012 4:22:06 am PDT #19397 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm actually kind of inclined to agree, or at least I'm definitely not inclined to see blood doping as being in the same class as steroids and the like. If anything, it's kind of the flip side of saying, "hey, dumbass, don't go and give blood the morning of a big event!"

Sports (the whole sports world, really) have a really big and maybe unresolvable tension between the myth of "we must remain Pure! and Untainted! and Noble!" (thanks, asshole Baron Coubertin) and the fact that taking every advantage you can isn't just a huge incentive, it's actually a duty (and just as much a part of the whole wacky code). And doping regulation is a giant mess; the cycling sponsors and baseball stars and other such guys with money are endlessly coming up with new stuff that isn't caught by any of the tests, and meanwhile, kids on a competitive level nobody actually cares about get smacked down for their asthma inhalers. Sigh.


Theodosia - Aug 25, 2012 4:28:15 am PDT #19398 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Plenty of professional athletes have genetic abnormalities that enhance their performance. Just wait until genetic engineering can create those enhancements on demand....


billytea - Aug 25, 2012 4:29:26 am PDT #19399 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Floyd Landis nd others have called for legalization of blood doping. Is it really that different than all the crazy biomechanics based traing that goes on now? Or the athletes who train extensively at high altitudes to get an oxygen boost when they race at sea level? Another step along, sure, but not like taking steroids. And stamping it out pushes people to ever more dangerous substances.

I don't know the ins and outs of it myself; the question I'd ask is, does it pose a significant health risk? If so, then I'm good with it being banned. If not, then I don't see a problem. (I think it raises blood pressure or such like. Whether dangerously so, I don't know.)


Cashmere - Aug 25, 2012 4:38:12 am PDT #19400 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

A republican on my friends list just posted about how the left wing believes any lie the liberal media throws at them--and that we should calm down because Romney isn't the conservative that everyone is claiming he is.

*facepalm* Not a word on the fact that his party calls Obama a secret Muslim Kenyan Marxist.


Sheryl - Aug 25, 2012 5:08:53 am PDT #19401 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Ah, the old "liberal media". Excuse me while I laugh bitterly.


Jesse - Aug 25, 2012 5:35:52 am PDT #19402 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh good LORD. My mother and I were supposed to go get our nails done this morning, but now she has to take my grandmother to the hospital, so I guess I'm going to get the mani-pedi, because we would pay for it regardless? That just doesn't feel right. And of course I missed her call by 5 minutes in the shower, and she doesn't have her cell phone on. OY.


Jesse - Aug 25, 2012 5:38:41 am PDT #19403 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I mean, it doesn't feel right that I'll be getting my nails done while they are taking my grandmother to the hospital, not that it doesn't feel right to have to pay if I cancel the appointment 45 minutes out, in case that wasn't clear.


Amy - Aug 25, 2012 5:39:14 am PDT #19404 of 30001
Because books.

What happened, Jesse?