I totally get you, meara. I got called some names on Jezebel for just bringing up the idea of being attracted to specific genitalia for sex acts. I was totally not talking about being attracted to people or talking about emotional relationships--just that someone might like sex with vadge more than sex with peen.

The radfem posts I was reading yesterday were largely focussed around hostile reaction to trans* women, because apparently they were telling lesbians that they had to find them attractive.

And, seriously--complicated.

However, I am now down with the COCKRUB WARRIORS (I think it's autocapitalised in my brain by now). They preach a message, amongst others, of encouraging "straight" married men to seek same for some down low C2C action. I'm guessing it's not promiscuity with only one secret boyfriend. Sounds perfectly reasonable.

It gives instructions on how to tell if your straight friend wants to grapple your penis. To wit:

Let's assume he's not hostile and that he has done things like taking off his shirt around you ... If this is the case you are in a good position to go further with him ... try to set things up so that you two are alone together ... a camping trip or a hike or a weekend sleep-over. For a sleep-over you need to do a couple of things ahead of time. Wear a nice button-up shirt and maybe tape pro wrestling when it's on TV and keep the tape handy to play while he's there ... if you're at your place turn the heat up to where it's a little too warm in the room. Play the tape and occasionally make remarks like "I could beat him" or "I could kick his butt" ... and then when someone like Stonecold comes out say "I don't think I could beat him," and then look at your buddy and say something like but as long as I can beat you I'll be happy! Get the idea? Turn it into a friendly challenge thing and get him to wrestle around with you ... something you can only do shirtless because you don't want to ruin your nice shirt!

With the heat turned up, he may start out with his shirt on but he will lose it at some point because it's so hot and you've got yours off anyway and you both want it to be a "fair fight," right? You may even be able to start out in gym shorts or boxers because you "don't want to ruin your good pants." If you really feel he is going along with you, you could even try "Strip Wrestling" where the loser of a round has to shed some article of clothing.

Once your lack of clothing makes things easier you should be able to take it from there.

If you can get it down to the two of you wearing just your shorts you'll be in good shape for some cock rubbing with your shorts on ... if he lets you do that (and you both have erections) you can try reaching into his shorts or saying something like "I'll bet you five bucks my dick is bigger than yours" ... then you'll both be nude ... and ready for some really hot [C2C] action!

I need to know if this works on guys who actually like sleeping with women. I mean...so I can try it. I may have been going about this all wrong...

I posit that if that shit works, he doesn't only like sleeping with women. In fact, I think that I read a fic remarkably similar to this . . .

Vortex, was it 50 Shades of Grey or the like?

Vortex, was it 50 Shades of Grey or the like?

I'm a little hurt that you think that I would actually read 50 Shade of Grey ;) it was probably Hawaii Five-0 fic. Two ridiculously macho cops/soldiers proving their masculinity by wrestling in various states of undress.

I need to know if this works on guys who actually like sleeping with women. I mean...so I can try it. I may have been going about this all wrong...

If it works to get totes straight guys into C2C, I would think it'd be a cinch to get it going in a C2V direction.

Of course I also think it's batshit crazy.

I got called some names on Jezebel for just bringing up the idea of being attracted to specific genitalia for sex acts.

With all of the kinks and fetishes out there, you'd think that people might realize that sometimes it's about more than the other person's soul. Sometimes it's about their specific junk.

Damn, people are unfathomable.

Yeah, and honestly--it's not like I meet people to whom I am not attracted and go "You are not My Type, therefore I cannot interact with you. Go away, you are not welcome in my vajayjay"

I mean, seriously. I has a type. I seriously has a type. And that is way more specific than what genitalia they might have. That said, if I met and befriended someone awesome who happened to not have my normally-preferred genitalia, or some variation thereof, or whatever, and I was suddenly all "OMG, want in your pants"? I'd get over the "type".

But if I state that GENERALLY, I like girls who wear men's clothing, with short hair, glasses, faux-hawks, tats, and a nice smile? That has nothing to with hating trans folks. Or femme girls. Or men. And that's not to say there couldn't be a transwoman lesbian who has all those things (hair/glasses/etc). It happens. Not terribly common, but if she's hot, I'll flirt with her. (OK, I flirt with a couch. But you know what I mean). But I feel like someone telling me that I MUST find transwomen AS A GROUP attractive in order to not be a hater....no. I don't find most PEOPLE attractive.

But I feel like someone telling me that I MUST find transwomen AS A GROUP attractive....no. I don't find most PEOPLE attractive.

EXACTLY. How is that a difficult concept for people to understand?

In fact, I think that I read a fic remarkably similar to this . . .

Yeah, it's just about the time where the guy on top "shows his interest by grinding down against [Dean/Captain Jack/Danno}'s obvious erection". Just about to happen...

But not with the mint, because I hate mint. Maybe ginger instead.

My sister in mint hatage! Ginger sounds amazing. Ginger and lime are two of my favorite flavors. I will make ginger syrup and use it to sweeten limeade. (or make vodka gimlets with ginger syrup, whichever)

The honey/lime/ginger was an excellent combo, mixed with quinoa, cherries, strawberries, and blueberries. I would never have thought to mix quinoa with fruit, but it is damn good.

Dude, why isn't Falling Skies a better show? Pfeh.

I enjoyed this week's episode more than most. Whether that was because it was actually better or because I watched it with half an eye while folding laundry I couldn't tell you.

Had a gimlet, no ginger syrup but quite tasty. So, thanks for that, Natter.