But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.

Cordelia ,'Potential'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


aurelia - Jul 02, 2012 10:38:58 am PDT #12443 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

We're close enough to a college campus that I'm sure these guys get plenty to look at. I haven't heard any catcalls, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they aren't the "worst possible version of construction worker". Still, my own comfort aside, I think going out in my inside clothes would be a barrier to communication.


SuziQ - Jul 02, 2012 10:55:35 am PDT #12444 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I want a new head. Yesterday was a migraine. I woke up at 5am feeling like it wanted to explode. I've made it through the majority of work I need to accomplish today and that icky nausia feeling is coming back.

In not me news...CJ is doing another fire ride-along. He is spending 12 hours at the firehouse across the street from us. I hope he gets to go on some interesting calls (not that I want anything on fire or anyone hurt...).


Sean K - Jul 02, 2012 10:56:08 am PDT #12445 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

x-posted from Bitches, for those who don't read in there...

Today, for your viewing pleasure, Star Wars: The Radio Play, as performed by Animated Batman, Bender Rodriguez Bending, Stimpy/Fry/Zoidberg/Invader Zim, Ironhide/Captain Hero/WALL*E, Twilight Sparkle/Bubbles/Harley Quinn, Brain/Morbo/Calculon/William Shatner, and Yakko Warner/Pinky (AKA Kevin Conroy, John DiMaggio, Billy West, Jess Harnell, Tara Strong, Maurice LaMarche, and Rob Paulsen):

[link] (YouTube link) (WARNING: The video runs about an hour and twenty minutes, and you may not want to stop watching. Also NSFW at various points.)


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2012 11:22:03 am PDT #12446 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. I was just testing to see if I could see indents on my mobile devices (which I can--if anyone has any information on how bon and Amy can force theirs to refresh, please help out in BBaBB++), and at the start of this thread I was reading trans* tumblrs who are filled with hate for cis women, and now I'm reading a tumblr of a cis lesbian who is railing at the rape culture propagated by trans* men. It seems they are worse than cis men, or no different.

Now I have to go look up this "cotton ceiling" and see what in hell is the deal.


Jesse - Jul 02, 2012 11:25:15 am PDT #12447 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Can't we all just get along?


Aims - Jul 02, 2012 11:30:16 am PDT #12448 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I know that certain people for several reasons have blanket hatred for any number of specific populations. However, I am wondering if they have given reasons for hating cis women? Not that I'm going to argue with their reasons, I'm just curious.


Amy - Jul 02, 2012 11:31:11 am PDT #12449 of 30001
Because books.

Where does "cis" come from? Is it short for something? I know what it means, I just can't figure out where the term originated.


Dana - Jul 02, 2012 11:32:44 am PDT #12450 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I think the "cis" is the Latin prefix.

I am starting to get twitchy. Husband has to find a new job, we're going to have to move, and now I have the urge to throw out half of everything in the house.


Aims - Jul 02, 2012 11:33:08 am PDT #12451 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

According to wiki, cis- is the Latin antonym of trans and was first used in 1998 by a German sexologist.


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2012 11:33:13 am PDT #12452 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, clearly we cannot.

Now, if you were really pre-occupied by the meaning of the term cotton ceiling, Roz Kaveney (I'm not sure why so much stuff comes back around to her. She must talk a LOT) had an article in which she discussed the way that lesbian support of trans* people (women in this specific case) stops at the cotton panties--they're willing to advocate, but not to recreate. Trans* women aren't womanly enough for a lesbian.

Which...is pretty confusing. When someone says they'll never fall for an Asian guy, I get all bristly. But when someone says they'll never fall (all the way down) for someone born with a penis, whether or not they have one at the time, it sounds both different and very much the same.