Also playing Miss Havisham: Helena Bonham Carter. Maybe between the two performances, the common impression of the character will shift from the very elderly old-movie versions back toward Dickens's 50-ish?
I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.
Angel ,'Chosen'
Natter 70: Hookers and Blow
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
amych - Apr 16, 2012 1:58:25 pm PDT #1214 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
EpicTangent - Apr 16, 2012 2:02:22 pm PDT #1215 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty
Wait, Gillian Anderson is old enough to play Miss Havisham?
I saw her talk about this on Graham Norton, and she made it very logical that Miss Havisham doesn't have to be THAT old. (Disclaimer, still haven't read the source material). But, depending on how old she was when she was engaged and how long after she was...disappointed she decided to adopt Estella, she could be late thirties/early forties at the start of the story pretty easily, I think.
Typo Boy - Apr 16, 2012 2:05:32 pm PDT #1216 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
OK in terms working Moms thing - I just feel like I was misread. Stephanie Cutter one of Arom's defenders said something along the lines of "no one works harder than a stay at home Mom" which is insulting to woman who work outside the home AND take care of kids, and is part of housewife romanticization, something that has zero to do with proper respect for stay-at-home mothers or housework. Amanda Marcotte has more on this.
-t - Apr 16, 2012 2:07:39 pm PDT #1217 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
the young man teaching him was in a Dr.Who 2-parter that you quite enjoyed?
Said young man was also Viserys in Game of Thrones. He's much more likable in Great Expectations.
Burrell - Apr 16, 2012 2:08:03 pm PDT #1218 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I see your point amych, but I don't think of Anderson as 50ish. I think of her as around 40, and imdb has her in her early 40s.
-t - Apr 16, 2012 2:10:05 pm PDT #1219 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Huh, I always assumed she was older than me. It's that aura of FBI authority, I suppose.
Steph L. - Apr 16, 2012 2:13:30 pm PDT #1220 of 30001
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"no one works harder than a stay at home Mom" which is insulting to woman who work outside the home AND take care of kids
I don't understand what the point is in even trying to compare SAHMs and mothers who work outside the home. Trying to compare who works "harder" only creates a division that, I have no doubt, politicians will exploit.
I think BOTH groups work their asses off. That's as much of a judgment as I'm willing to make.
Ginger - Apr 16, 2012 2:28:00 pm PDT #1221 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
I think many people work their asses off. However, a women with a couple of Cadillacs and an indeterminate number of horses doesn't have to.
amych - Apr 16, 2012 2:32:04 pm PDT #1222 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I think of her as around 40
Yeah, I getcha (although I think of GA as, I dunno, 28. Cursed X-files, burning yourselves into my visual memory!!)
I definitely have a mental Hollywood-Havisham who's about 80, which doesn't come from the text at all.
Jesse - Apr 16, 2012 2:34:38 pm PDT #1223 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Wait, Gillian Anderson is old enough to play Miss Havisham?
She does have white hair in the role, which makes her hard to pin down, age-wise.
But, depending on how old she was when she was engaged and how long after she was...disappointed she decided to adopt Estella, she could be late thirties/early forties at the start of the story pretty easily, I think.
But also this. Spinsters were young! And also old, obviously.