You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Apr 16, 2012 2:10:05 pm PDT #1219 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Huh, I always assumed she was older than me. It's that aura of FBI authority, I suppose.


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2012 2:13:30 pm PDT #1220 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

"no one works harder than a stay at home Mom" which is insulting to woman who work outside the home AND take care of kids

I don't understand what the point is in even trying to compare SAHMs and mothers who work outside the home. Trying to compare who works "harder" only creates a division that, I have no doubt, politicians will exploit.

I think BOTH groups work their asses off. That's as much of a judgment as I'm willing to make.


Ginger - Apr 16, 2012 2:28:00 pm PDT #1221 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I think many people work their asses off. However, a women with a couple of Cadillacs and an indeterminate number of horses doesn't have to.


amych - Apr 16, 2012 2:32:04 pm PDT #1222 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think of her as around 40

Yeah, I getcha (although I think of GA as, I dunno, 28. Cursed X-files, burning yourselves into my visual memory!!)

I definitely have a mental Hollywood-Havisham who's about 80, which doesn't come from the text at all.


Jesse - Apr 16, 2012 2:34:38 pm PDT #1223 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Wait, Gillian Anderson is old enough to play Miss Havisham?

She does have white hair in the role, which makes her hard to pin down, age-wise.

But, depending on how old she was when she was engaged and how long after she was...disappointed she decided to adopt Estella, she could be late thirties/early forties at the start of the story pretty easily, I think.

But also this. Spinsters were young! And also old, obviously.


Steph L. - Apr 16, 2012 2:35:44 pm PDT #1224 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

However, a women with a couple of Cadillacs and an indeterminate number of horses doesn't have to.

I wasn't talking about Anne Romney, and I guess I should have made that clearer, though I did assume most people wouldn't think I was rushing to her defense.

I meant the average SAHM, the one without a staff at her disposal, works her ass off. And the average mother who works outside the home also works her ass off.

It seems like stating that one of those groups works harder than the other could have a divide-and-conquer effect, which seems like political gamesmanship.


flea - Apr 16, 2012 2:36:47 pm PDT #1225 of 30001
information libertarian

Ok, Gillian Anderson has small sons named Oscar and Felix. It's like The Odd Couple in her house, except with 5 and 3 year olds! (Seriously?!)


amych - Apr 16, 2012 2:38:14 pm PDT #1226 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Oscar and Felix

OMG FALLING RIGHT BACK IN LOVE NOW


Consuela - Apr 16, 2012 2:41:49 pm PDT #1227 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, that's hella cute. Oscar and Felix indeed.


Jesse - Apr 16, 2012 2:42:49 pm PDT #1228 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I meant the average SAHM, the one without a staff at her disposal, works her ass off. And the average mother who works outside the home also works her ass off.
It seems like stating that one of those groups works harder than the other could have a divide-and-conquer effect, which seems like political gamesmanship.

I do wish we could focus on the class warfare....