Wash: So, two days in a hospital? That's awful. Don't you just hate doctors? Simon: Hey. Wash: I mean, present company excluded. Jayne: Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude.

'Ariel'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2012 11:32:48 am PDT #10109 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd have added a couple of inches or so to the humans

Are D&D humans taller than average Western humans?

Oh, and I have another question which isn't D&D, it's hentai. I'm trying to work out what's going on in this [link] -- there are three people in the pic, right? That's an abdomen in the bottom right of the picture. What's in the girl on the right's mouth? Whose breast is the one on the left? The left boob of the chick on the left?

Unrelated to the hentai, so...Bunheads. I'm happy that the lead is comparatively plain. She's tall and thin, sure, but not in the typical Hollywood way. Even though she's reacted like she's pretty, it's real life pretty. I'm sure she hasn't had her pick of TV or film roles. Sure, it's ABC Family not ABC proper, but still. She has relatively few TV credits. Her longest onscreen stint before Bunheads is the Conchords. I remember the point at which my standup friends would go "Oh, okay, I guess I'm auditioning for the wacky neighbour, then." And they were guys. I can't imagine what it must be like for a pretty woman who's not "right" pretty.

And, to drive that home, there was a "Salma Hayek looking like a 'wreck'" ad during it.


bon bon - Jun 17, 2012 11:38:46 am PDT #10110 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm sure she hasn't had her pick of TV or film roles. Sure, it's ABC Family not ABC proper, but still. She has relatively few TV credits. Her longest onscreen stint before Bunheads is the Conchords. I remember the point at which my standup friends would go "Oh, okay, I guess I'm auditioning for the wacky neighbour, then." And they were guys. I can't imagine what it must be like for a pretty woman who's not "right" pretty.

I think you might have missed the whole Tony-award winning part of her bio? I don't think she's lacked for offers.


Consuela - Jun 17, 2012 11:44:36 am PDT #10111 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I could google this but I'd rather talk to Buffistas: How many minutes per pound do I roast a chicken? I have a 4-lb chicken.


billytea - Jun 17, 2012 11:46:05 am PDT #10112 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Are D&D humans taller than average Western humans?

It depends a bit on the edition, but generally yes - especially if comparing them to humans at a Medieval level of nourishment. IIRC, 1st ed AD&D made human males 6' tall on average. The latest edition has humans spread between 5'6" and 6'2" - and that's over both men and women.


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2012 11:57:31 am PDT #10113 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think you might have missed the whole Tony-award winning part of her bio?

No, not at all. In fact, my point is mostly about how TV works. She's got a solid Broadway past: [link] but they're not trading on the same currency as TV. She's not conventionally pretty enough to be the fat comedian's wife. That's why she stands out. Do you think that female characters played that plain often are leads on network shows? In their late 30s?

eta:

1st ed AD&D made human males 6' tall on average. The latest edition has humans spread between 5'6" and 6'2" - and that's over both men and women.

How come the half orcs are so short? How tall are full orcs?


le nubian - Jun 17, 2012 12:00:56 pm PDT #10114 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Consuela,

that's a good question. I have found that most estimates I have gotten from the Internet I have had to modify given my oven. Do you have a meat thermometer?

I would guess 10 minutes per lb at 450 degrees (if you want the nice crispy skin), but it may be more like 15 minutes per lb.


bon bon - Jun 17, 2012 12:07:37 pm PDT #10115 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

You think Foster, one of the most successful women in Broadway history, couldn't get a leading role because of her looks? What possible evidence of that do you have? I can tell you that tv networks pursue deals with Tony winners, which is why, for example, Sara Ramirez has a role on Grey's.


Consuela - Jun 17, 2012 12:13:40 pm PDT #10116 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

10-15 minutes/lb sounds good, thanks le n!


§ ita § - Jun 17, 2012 12:16:20 pm PDT #10117 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You think Foster, one of the most successful women in Broadway history, couldn't get a leading role because of her looks?

I think there's little precedent for the plainness of her character (on network, not cable), and I'm trying to think of another actress around her equivalence of looks (she's prettier than the character, but it's still not the same typical TV lead look) who's the lead in a network drama. Not a lead--the lead.

I've got Kathy Bates...and I can't think of anyone else. Who am I not remembering?


bon bon - Jun 17, 2012 12:27:58 pm PDT #10118 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Well, ABC Family's not a network, and I don't see why it has to be a drama, but how about The Killing, The Big C, L&O SVU, Nurse Jackie, or Damages. You're unnecessarily limiting it to a very small sample size of female-led dramas, of which there are fewer than ten, I'd wager. But you started your argument by claiming that because Sutton Foster hasn't done a lot of television, it's because of her looks, which is most likely not true. The fact is that with fewer than ten female-led network dramas out there, there are gonna be thousands of stunning women who haven't had that opportunity either.