Bar maid! Bring me stronger ale! And some plump, succulent babies to eat!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Nov 15, 2011 12:51:37 pm PST #6884 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

"Data" are plural though. Almost always.


Polter-Cow - Nov 15, 2011 12:54:00 pm PST #6885 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Data is the plural of datum, so, even though it sounds weird, it takes a plural verb. Doesn't stop people from using the singular verb, even scientists.


Hil R. - Nov 15, 2011 12:54:49 pm PST #6886 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Things that keep getting worse: the Fresh Air Fund has notified the police that Sandusky hosted at least one kid, and possibly several. (They know that he hosted one in the nineties, and they think he might have hosted others in the seventies, but they need to go through their old records to figure that out.)


Ginger - Nov 15, 2011 12:57:23 pm PST #6887 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm a stickler for data's being plural, but usage guides note that the singular use is increasingly common.


Amy - Nov 15, 2011 1:01:43 pm PST #6888 of 30001
Because books.

I'm a stickler for data's being plural, but usage guides note that the singular use is increasingly common.

My Webster's 10th Edition from ... 1981, I think ... says "as an abstract mass noun [such as the 'information'] takes a singular verb and singular modifiers."


le nubian - Nov 15, 2011 1:08:48 pm PST #6889 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

APA (American Psychological Association) style says "data" is plural, I believe. So that's been my bible regarding this issue.


Sheryl - Nov 15, 2011 1:09:41 pm PST #6890 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday sumi!


Lee - Nov 15, 2011 1:10:15 pm PST #6891 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

PUPPY

Other PUPPY

Someone really needs to tell me to step away from pet finders.


Allyson - Nov 15, 2011 1:10:22 pm PST #6892 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You people were helping. Now you are not.

I need a bonita ! ruling.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2011 1:31:58 pm PST #6893 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would say that current usage supports "the data is augmented" but if you're writing for a technical and pedantic audience you can get away with "the data are augmented". Who's it for?