What is your childhood trauma?

Cordelia ,'Lessons'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sheryl - Nov 15, 2011 1:09:41 pm PST #6890 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday sumi!


Lee - Nov 15, 2011 1:10:15 pm PST #6891 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

PUPPY

Other PUPPY

Someone really needs to tell me to step away from pet finders.


Allyson - Nov 15, 2011 1:10:22 pm PST #6892 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You people were helping. Now you are not.

I need a bonita ! ruling.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2011 1:31:58 pm PST #6893 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would say that current usage supports "the data is augmented" but if you're writing for a technical and pedantic audience you can get away with "the data are augmented". Who's it for?


Ginger - Nov 15, 2011 1:35:44 pm PST #6894 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

New York Times style:

data is acceptable as a singular term for information: The data was persuasive. In its traditional sense, meaning a collection of facts and figures, the noun can still be plural: They tabulate the data, which arrive from bookstores nationwide. (In this sense, the singular is datum, a word both stilted and deservedly obscure.)

AP Style prefers using data as plural, but says it can be treated as a collective noun. Reuters style says singular.

This would be a lot simpler if American English treated collective nouns as plural, like British English.


Steph L. - Nov 15, 2011 1:50:53 pm PST #6895 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The word "data" is plural for "datum," as PC said.

I know it gets used as a singular all the time, but that's not correct. It drives me batshit INSANE. But if you're writing for a non-technical, non-scientific audience, the plural will sound weird to them.

So -- depends on your readership.


Jesse - Nov 15, 2011 1:55:59 pm PST #6896 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Data is the plural of datum in Latin. We are not speaking Latin. All kinds of Latin plurals are singular in English. OK, agenda is the only one that comes immediately to mind, but there's one, anyway.


Allyson - Nov 15, 2011 1:57:18 pm PST #6897 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's a science paper, which will be read by a mixed audience of scientists and laypersons.


Steph L. - Nov 15, 2011 1:59:05 pm PST #6898 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Data is the plural of datum in Latin. We are not speaking Latin.

I don't think that reasoning will fly with the AMA Style Guide.

Like I said, depends on the audience.


Steph L. - Nov 15, 2011 1:59:20 pm PST #6899 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It's a science paper, which will be read by a mixed audience of scientists and laypersons.

I'd make it plural, then. Even if it sounds weird to you.