This. Even though I find it unlikely that I'll have children.
Raise your hand if 'ew.'
Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
erikaj - Oct 26, 2011 8:25:44 am PDT #3214 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!
Connie Neil - Oct 26, 2011 8:26:22 am PDT #3215 of 30001
brillig
My only quibble with the tax break for kids is when people treat their kids like a crop they're raising for tax benefits instead of as human beings. IE, the families with a dozen kids that are herded around like a battalion, not a family.
erikaj - Oct 26, 2011 8:29:45 am PDT #3216 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!
That is pretty weird, Connie.
flea - Oct 26, 2011 8:33:27 am PDT #3217 of 30001
information libertarian
Isn't that usually from religious reasons, though? I am pretty sure nobody has 12 kids for the tax benefits. They (the tax benefits, that is) are honestly not that great, and certainly don't outweigh the costs of raising children.
Jessica - Oct 26, 2011 8:41:56 am PDT #3218 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
They (the tax benefits, that is) are honestly not that great, and certainly don't outweigh the costs of raising children.
Seriously.
Jesse - Oct 26, 2011 8:48:03 am PDT #3219 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I don't have a car, so I don't know why my taxes have to go to pay for roads and highways.
Connie Neil - Oct 26, 2011 8:48:44 am PDT #3220 of 30001
brillig
No, it's not the primary reason, but they certainly gloat over it as an advantage.
Calli - Oct 26, 2011 8:50:06 am PDT #3221 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I'm quite happy to pay taxes to educate (and, as necessary, help feed and doctor) other people's children. I'd be even happier to pay more taxes so a) those things could be done better/more thoroughly and b) the people who do those things could be recompensed more highly. The effort I put into earning the amount of tax money that I pay into education and etc. is far less than the effort that goes into birthing and raising the kids in question, and should help lead to the sort of society I want to live in 20 years down the road—one with reasonably educated, healthy young adults.
Living in a civilized society costs money. I'm good with that.
Dana - Oct 26, 2011 8:56:16 am PDT #3222 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
My grandmother had eleven kids and they were all just fine. People with a lot of kids probably wanted a lot of kids.
§ ita § - Oct 26, 2011 8:56:43 am PDT #3223 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Other people are paying taxes so she can do some of her shit. That's just how things go around. Though isn't it possible that she meant children were a lifestyle choice *and* human beings? They aren't inherently mutually exclusive, are they?