Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Oct 26, 2011 7:43:20 am PDT #3206 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Thanks for the thoughts, folks. I'm working half-days the rest of the week to allow maximum use of visiting hours, (which are limited to the evenings) and still get a decent amouont of sleep.

I talked to Hubs this morning, and he's doing better. No word on when he can come home, but we're playing it by ear.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 26, 2011 7:46:00 am PDT #3207 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I totally read that as beer instead of bear. My brain was providing commentary like "Oh, beer behind the building. That's not so bad. But why do they want people to park elsewhere? Are they afraid people will stop and get drunk on the way into work? If that's the case, perhaps they shouldn't chill beer behind the building. Allyson works at a very odd place."

Not just you.


Jessica - Oct 26, 2011 7:47:00 am PDT #3208 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ugh, a good friend of mine posted a rant on Facebook about how she should get a tax credit for not having children, because she is not contributing to overpopulation and environmental degradation, and how having children is a "lifestyle choice."

Someone should explain to her that those "lifestyle choices" are going to be the ones paying for her social security.


erikaj - Oct 26, 2011 7:54:45 am PDT #3209 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

Sometimes I feel laughed at by Big Bang Theory, though I'm the wrong kind of geek entirely and bad enough at math to make the whole posse drink gin out of the cat dish. But I'm more like them than casual hot girl Penny--we share the same tendencies toward intensity and whatnot.Like my mom won't watch L&O with me anymore cause I keep "correcting it" with wisdom from David simon. Cash, they do sort of remind me of savants I used to know. I think I still like Community better. (I hate to admit it cause I really love "Baby Mama" and "mean Girls" but I don't think 30 Rock is that funny.)Maybe it's cause I'm a writer who routinely dresses like shit, or maybe it's hard for me to be *truly* atypical and deal with how the show presents Liz Lemon's Hollywood Ugly. If she's gross, I should be in a cage someplace, right?)


Consuela - Oct 26, 2011 7:54:46 am PDT #3210 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

They are human beings!

I suspect it's an instance of her complete disassociating the policy issue she's talking about from the immediate, personal, context.

IOW, she really doesn't think about your kids being human beings when she's writing that post. She's just (probably) copypasting from some other "childfree" forum.

The personal is political, but I think we often forget about the personal in our politics.

You could tell her that you found her use of "lifestyle choice" an affront, as your children are, in fact, human beings. And if she thinks it's so unfair that you get tax credits for them, she doesn't have to spend any time with them.


Jesse - Oct 26, 2011 7:55:29 am PDT #3211 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I talked to Hubs this morning, and he's doing better.

I'm glad for that, at least.


erikaj - Oct 26, 2011 7:58:42 am PDT #3212 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

of course, I do think the jokes in "Homicide" are funny, so maybe it's more that my sensibility isn't mainstream enough for 30 Rock. Or that I hate Tracy Morgan.


Burrell - Oct 26, 2011 8:17:52 am PDT #3213 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Hugs and ~ma to you Maria.

IOW, she really doesn't think about your kids being human beings when she's writing that post. She's just (probably) copypasting from some other "childfree" forum.

I'm guessing this, yes.

My issue would be less with the "hey, human beings over here!" and more with the idea that it's the same kind of logic that drives people who say things like "why should my taxes support public schools when I don't have any kids in them?" Or "...since I send my kids to private school?"

There's a kind of fundamental disconnect there that doesn't see how children--not just my children but all children--are the future, and that the whole society benefits when those children are well fed, well educated, and healthy.

t /rant


erikaj - Oct 26, 2011 8:25:44 am PDT #3214 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

This. Even though I find it unlikely that I'll have children.


Connie Neil - Oct 26, 2011 8:26:22 am PDT #3215 of 30001
brillig

My only quibble with the tax break for kids is when people treat their kids like a crop they're raising for tax benefits instead of as human beings. IE, the families with a dozen kids that are herded around like a battalion, not a family.