You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kate P. - Mar 29, 2012 12:16:00 pm PDT #28657 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

...I kind of feel like I should have thought of that earlier. Thanks, le nub!


le nubian - Mar 29, 2012 12:22:27 pm PDT #28658 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Ginger's response has more charm though.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 29, 2012 12:39:48 pm PDT #28659 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I mean, yes, I've heard criticism of the whole women-writing-gay-men thing, but...I don't think it generally carries the same cultural and historical weight as blackface!!

Speaking as a gay man, I don't mind in a cultural sense when women write gay male characters or the intermediate variations of slash - writing about people that aren't just like you is a huge component of fiction. I'm annoyed when male couples are written with very heteronormative relationship dynamics—or worse, characterization that's basically that of teenage girls—but that's a matter of poor writing and research, not an indicator that some taboo social stricture is being violated strictly because of the gender of the writer.

Hell, if I've run across more moving writing about a romance between two men than that by Annie Proulx, it escapes my memory at the moment.


Atropa - Mar 29, 2012 12:41:54 pm PDT #28660 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

ita ! I demand you wear your skeleton hand necklace and take a picture for meeeeee! (I will eventually own one, once I'm gainfully employed.)


DavidS - Mar 29, 2012 12:53:52 pm PDT #28661 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In case you've been wondering how to do those cool retro eye liner wings, my favorite Rockabilly model, Cherry Dollface, offers this tutorial.


Connie Neil - Mar 29, 2012 12:59:34 pm PDT #28662 of 30001
brillig

writing about people that aren't just like you is a huge component of fiction

SF/F authors would be in a world of hurt if we could only write about people like ourselves.

Though it would explain much about Tolkien. Perhaps he was a wizard.


Atropa - Mar 29, 2012 1:01:37 pm PDT #28663 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

In case you've been wondering how to do those cool retro eye liner wings, my favorite Rockabilly model, Cherry Dollface, offers this tutorial.

I'm on the train and can't access YouTube right now - is that the one that uses scotch tape to make a stencil? Because I'm conflicted about that. On the one hand, hey, that would make doing winged liner easier. On the other hand, tape around your eyelids seems like a bad idea, and dammit, SOME of us just practiced with liquid liner until we got it right. t /gothy makeup snobbery


DavidS - Mar 29, 2012 1:16:52 pm PDT #28664 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

is that the one that uses scotch tape to make a stencil?

Oh no!

SOME of us just practiced with liquid liner until we got it right.

She's in this camp. But she does a good job of breaking it down for beginners. There's the tiniest little bitter laugh when she notes that if you fuck up with liquid eyeliner you basically have to wipe it off and start from scratch.


Toddson - Mar 29, 2012 1:18:40 pm PDT #28665 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

A little something to brighten your day.


meara - Mar 29, 2012 1:26:04 pm PDT #28666 of 30001

David, maybe you can figure this out for me. Back some many moons ago, following links hither and thither on the internet, I came across an Australian fashion blogger who does vintage and had hair tutorials and stuff. No idea why I didn't bookmark it. Any ideas?