What'd you all order a dead guy for?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sheryl - Mar 22, 2012 1:44:00 pm PDT #27729 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Wish I could get away with not shaving my legs.Ok, I am wearing jeans or chinos most of the time, so nobody sees my legs but me and my husband most days, but I've been doing this since I was 12 so I'm used to it. (Also, pale skin and dark hair not a good combination on the legs, IMO.)


brenda m - Mar 22, 2012 1:58:37 pm PDT #27730 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

As a currently hairy-legged (but not man-hating) woman, can I just say that I fucking hate the fact that I have to shave my legs to be considered "professionally dressed" even in a laid-back place like a library. Signed, still putting off the Great Spring Shave despite the fact that it's been 80 all week and I am running out of pants.

I'm not hairy-legged! I shaved yesterday for the first time in months.

This is not to your point, but I'll take the somewhat occasional leg shaving over daily face shaving that most men endure. (Not that they have to. But the face grooming seems more onerous, generally speaking.


Atropa - Mar 22, 2012 2:00:06 pm PDT #27731 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I would say the number of feminist who don't support that are pretty small

I will say as someone who presents EXTREMELY femme, people get very surprised that I am a feminist, and I have had many, many other women tell me that I'm "too girly" to be a "real" feminist.


flea - Mar 22, 2012 2:03:40 pm PDT #27732 of 30001
information libertarian

Lots of women shave their legs every day (or wax). I used to shave every day in high school. (I'm really hairy. Now I could give a fuck, and shave as rarely as I can get away with.)


flea - Mar 22, 2012 2:05:35 pm PDT #27733 of 30001
information libertarian

Huh, I wonder why face-waxing for men has never caught on. A lot of them wax chests and arms and backs and stuff...


Sue - Mar 22, 2012 2:16:02 pm PDT #27734 of 30001
hip deep in pie

It's 8 PM and I am as drunk as a skunk. To be fair it was @8C here (IN MARCH!) and drinking on a patio was the only response.

I rarely shave my legs. Like a few times a year. Would that be different if I didn't have fair hair? Maybe. But I don't get modern standards of beauty. Of course, many times it strikes me that if I was prettier, thinner, less hairy, I wouldn't be a perma-single.


billytea - Mar 22, 2012 2:18:37 pm PDT #27735 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

This is not to your point, but I'll take the somewhat occasional leg shaving over daily face shaving that most men endure. (Not that they have to. But the face grooming seems more onerous, generally speaking.

Off-topic, Ryan's become quite fascinated with watching his daddy shave. (Especially since I got a new shaver a couple of weeks ago, and this one allows the use of shaving gel.

Re the feminist discussion, I would feel presumptuous calling myself a feminist. I'd have no problem stating that I support feminism or feminist ideals, or such like.


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2012 2:22:47 pm PDT #27736 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wonder why face-waxing for men has never caught on

How regularly would you have to wax your beard to be practical? It is fussier than shaving, and less easy to do yourself.

I don't shave, but I can't pretend it's a big feminist thing. I'm not hirsute at all, and I will also cheerfully wear opaque tights 365 days a year anyway.

I notice one poster on the thread who is defiantly stating that she does not modify her appearance any further than required for hygiene and...okay? There's a prize for that? I don't even know. She's saying she deliberately doesn't wear makeup, and all I can think is...as opposed to me, who doesn't wear it by accident?

Actually, I accidentally wore lipstick today. I forgot my Vaseline at my desk when I went out for lunch and my lips got dry and I had to put on lipstick. It was so traumatic. The Man had total dominion over me for at least half an hour.


meara - Mar 22, 2012 2:29:26 pm PDT #27737 of 30001

Hey, I'm a LESBIAN feminist, and I dislike hairy legs (on me) so much I've gotten them LASERED OFF. er, the hair, not the legs.


Tom Scola - Mar 22, 2012 2:31:28 pm PDT #27738 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I wonder why face-waxing for men has never caught on

Whiskers are different than other types of body hair. They're much thicker and stronger. I'd wager that the wax wouldn't provide enough adhesion to pull out facial hair. Plus, there are more nerve endings in the face than there are on other parts of the body. So it would be hella painful, and it probably wouldn't work very well.