Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?

'Why We Fight'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Mar 22, 2012 2:29:26 pm PDT #27737 of 30001

Hey, I'm a LESBIAN feminist, and I dislike hairy legs (on me) so much I've gotten them LASERED OFF. er, the hair, not the legs.


Tom Scola - Mar 22, 2012 2:31:28 pm PDT #27738 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I wonder why face-waxing for men has never caught on

Whiskers are different than other types of body hair. They're much thicker and stronger. I'd wager that the wax wouldn't provide enough adhesion to pull out facial hair. Plus, there are more nerve endings in the face than there are on other parts of the body. So it would be hella painful, and it probably wouldn't work very well.


Jessica - Mar 22, 2012 2:33:58 pm PDT #27739 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Is male facial hair significantly thicker than female facial hair? Because women wax their faces.


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2012 2:36:22 pm PDT #27740 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yerp. Women wax their moustaches alla the time.


flea - Mar 22, 2012 2:37:09 pm PDT #27741 of 30001
information libertarian

My beef with choice feminism is that our society rarely actually allows choice from an equal starting place. The traditionally culturally acceptable choice is the easier choice.


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2012 2:39:27 pm PDT #27742 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The traditionally culturally acceptable choice is the easier choice.

How does that even remotely justify taking it away?


Tom Scola - Mar 22, 2012 2:39:54 pm PDT #27743 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Is male facial hair significantly thicker than female facial hair?

Every person is different, but in most instances, yes, it is.


flea - Mar 22, 2012 2:43:04 pm PDT #27744 of 30001
information libertarian

Where did I say choices should be taken away? I would like to see more choices available.


Amy - Mar 22, 2012 2:47:08 pm PDT #27745 of 30001
Because books.

The traditionally culturally acceptable choice is the easier choice.

It's easier in the sense that you won't be criticized (by the other tradition-followers) if you choose the traditional role/choice/career/whatever, but I think most of the time now you *can* make the other choices. You're just going to be asked to explain yourself more often, which is also your choice to do or not.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 22, 2012 2:47:21 pm PDT #27746 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I have had many, many other women tell me that I'm "too girly" to be a "real" feminist.

rolls eyes forever.

Anyone who insists on those kinds of labels is not, as far as I'm concerned, working in any sort of ideological or political framework that I wish to be a part of.

In conclusion, people be crazy everywhere and affix personal agendas to all sorts of ideas, why should feminists be any different?

Men being feminists- I don't have a problem with it, but it does sound weird sometimes, depending on context, when they self-identify. Sometimes it pings the "Some of my best friends are black/gay/Asian/etc" tone that makes me take a second look to see if it's sincere. It seems almost radically political to affix that specific descriptor to a dude. Which is fine.

Note: my views do not claim to represent any brand or subsection of feminism. Just... Noraism, I guess. Liberal-white-lady-ism? Beerism?