Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


dcp - Mar 02, 2012 9:51:21 am PST #24927 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

you guys have 401K taken out of your bonuses

Yep. My bonus ("short-term incentive") is treated like just another paycheck for most purposes, including my company matching the amount being contributed to the 401(k) -- a bonus on the bonus. The only difference is that there are no deductions for medical/dental/vision/HSA plans.


-t - Mar 02, 2012 9:52:54 am PST #24928 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Jess makes a good point, it always seemed like the withholding tax rate was higher for bonuses, for some reason. So if your 401k deposit is pre-tax, doing that rather than regular savings account has some benefit.

Eta: and we chose to go that way, to be clear.


Jesse - Mar 02, 2012 9:53:13 am PST #24929 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Seems like you might as well not have them take out the 401(k), assuming it's not going to be a life-changing amount of money, and putting that much more in your short-term savings. You still stay on track with whatever your plan was around your annual 401(k) contribution.


§ ita § - Mar 02, 2012 10:00:17 am PST #24930 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thing #2--there might be a raise, and that might change things. Seriously, why so taunty and close-lipped?

Still, either way, I'm looking for 1 month of art class and a cloak. That's in my budget for March.


-t - Mar 02, 2012 10:05:00 am PST #24931 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I always made bonuses extra-budgetary because we never knew how much they were going to be until the check showed up. My standard way of dealing with them was to put the usual paycheck-% into the 401k, half the take-home bonus into savings, and the other half immediately squanderable. Not knowing what we could squander on was super tantalizing.


tommyrot - Mar 02, 2012 10:06:42 am PST #24932 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

More Incredibly Cute Footage of Baby Sloths at Costa Rican Sanctuary

First video is the one I lined to yesterday.


Calli - Mar 02, 2012 10:08:24 am PST #24933 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Back when pine trees were muttering about those new angiosperms messing up the neighborhood, I had a boyfriend with a waterbed. I don't remember the bed being a problem. (Maybe it helps that I don't get motion sick.)


sumi - Mar 02, 2012 10:09:06 am PST #24934 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Poor pony with hayfever.


brenda m - Mar 02, 2012 10:09:12 am PST #24935 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Our bonuses do not have 401k contributions taken out by default - you have to elect that specifically every year if you want it. So those are the emails we get. The idea of suspending your regular contributions so that 401k didn't hit the bonus seems kind of misguided. How many people forget or delay reupping?


§ ita § - Mar 02, 2012 10:09:35 am PST #24936 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Part of it is that I feel my 401K is completely useless, and I just pay into it because it's entirely dumb not to, but I'll still be working for the rest of my life anyway.

eta:

How many people forget or delay reupping?

Exactly.