(I can't even think about what will transpire if Tim and I get married. Because it won't be in the Catholic church, and probably not in any church. But that's not really an issue right now and may never be. But still, I can't help thinking about it.)
That sounds like a good reason for not marrying at all. Or secret marrying. Oy. Can of worms to be sure.
And that (liberation theology) was something I loved about Catholicism. Don't know where it went.
This. My personal experience with the Catholic church has always been heavily on that side of things, and it's hard to reconcile those people (and the JZs of the world) with what the broader institution really is.
Best wishes for your mom, Frank.
espousing things like -- his (Tim's Dad) salvation is contingent on getting his children to come back to the church
Yeah, I grew up in fundy evangelical churches and while we were told we needed to tell people about Jesus and help them get saved, our own salvation was not dependent on whether or not we were successful.
All kinds of ~ma for your mom, Frank.
Great news, Vortex. Pretty good company!
espousing things like -- his (Tim's Dad) salvation is contingent on getting his children to come back to the church
That strikes me as evil--causing huge amounts of emotional distress to church members just to increase the church's membership.
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it's hard to reconcile those people (and the JZ's of the world) with what the broader institution really is.
I can't talk about it with JZ anymore because I get all rantypants.
I do spend a fair amount of time telling her to just "Schism already!" and split off a Super Liberal We Didn't Think Jesus Was Joshing When He Said Take Care of the Poor Plus We Love Teh Gays and Wimmins New Catholic Church.
Congratulations Vortex! That's fantastic news. Good news on the funded move also.
Frank, health~ma to your mom.
I'm excited for you Vortex! What an exciting change.
Though I know the DCistas will miss you muchly.