I didn't get jet lag when I went to Kenya either, but maybe that was too long a trip. I don't know.
Just keep walking, preacher-man.
River ,'Jaynestown'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Oct 18, 2011 8:23:56 am PDT #2049 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
brenda m - Oct 18, 2011 8:24:10 am PDT #2050 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
(I can't even think about what will transpire if Tim and I get married. Because it won't be in the Catholic church, and probably not in any church. But that's not really an issue right now and may never be. But still, I can't help thinking about it.)
That sounds like a good reason for not marrying at all. Or secret marrying. Oy. Can of worms to be sure.
And that (liberation theology) was something I loved about Catholicism. Don't know where it went.
This. My personal experience with the Catholic church has always been heavily on that side of things, and it's hard to reconcile those people (and the JZs of the world) with what the broader institution really is.
Best wishes for your mom, Frank.
ChiKat - Oct 18, 2011 8:36:04 am PDT #2051 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
espousing things like -- his (Tim's Dad) salvation is contingent on getting his children to come back to the church
Yeah, I grew up in fundy evangelical churches and while we were told we needed to tell people about Jesus and help them get saved, our own salvation was not dependent on whether or not we were successful.
All kinds of ~ma for your mom, Frank.
Cashmere - Oct 18, 2011 8:42:13 am PDT #2052 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.
Great news, Vortex. Pretty good company!
tommyrot - Oct 18, 2011 8:47:07 am PDT #2053 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
espousing things like -- his (Tim's Dad) salvation is contingent on getting his children to come back to the church
That strikes me as evil--causing huge amounts of emotional distress to church members just to increase the church's membership.
Jesse - Oct 18, 2011 8:49:37 am PDT #2054 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Hey Stephanie (and others): I think you'll be interested in tonight's Frontline episode on immigration detention: [link]
DavidS - Oct 18, 2011 9:10:50 am PDT #2055 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
it's hard to reconcile those people (and the JZ's of the world) with what the broader institution really is.
I can't talk about it with JZ anymore because I get all rantypants.
I do spend a fair amount of time telling her to just "Schism already!" and split off a Super Liberal We Didn't Think Jesus Was Joshing When He Said Take Care of the Poor Plus We Love Teh Gays and Wimmins New Catholic Church.
Sue - Oct 18, 2011 9:15:24 am PDT #2056 of 30001
hip deep in pie
Congrats Vortex!
hippocampus - Oct 18, 2011 9:17:23 am PDT #2057 of 30001
not your mom's socks.
Congratulations Vortex! That's fantastic news. Good news on the funded move also.
Frank, health~ma to your mom.
Tom Scola - Oct 18, 2011 9:19:35 am PDT #2058 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.