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sj - Mar 18, 2012 4:14:37 am PDT #9947 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

If the killer can claim he felt threatened, that might be enough. Despite the obvious issue that the killer was the aggressor, followed Martin, had a gun, and attacked first.

I just don't understand that. The 911 operator told him not to follow Trayvon. I didn't know anything about the stand your ground laws before this happened, but they are seriously scary.


Zenkitty - Mar 18, 2012 6:16:44 am PDT #9948 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Ryan: "I'M NOT UNDER OATH!!"

falls down laughing

The Trayvon Martin thing just makes me sick. If Trayvon were white, his killer would have been thrown under the jail. But if he were white, he wouldn't have been killed. This wasn't a case of being killed by a random madman going randomly crazy, this was a deliberate targeted murder based on racial hatred. I cannot fathom how that murderer can go free, can not even go to trial. What fucking country do we live in?


Laura - Mar 18, 2012 7:20:22 am PDT #9949 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

This murderer needs to be arrested. As a human, as a parent, I am just sick about this.


sumi - Mar 18, 2012 7:26:24 am PDT #9950 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Ryan! OmG - too, too funny.

And yes - the murderer needs to be arrested. . . I read somewhere (NYT?) that high profile local people like the MAYOR want him arrested. WTF? Why hasn't he been arrested?


Typo Boy - Mar 18, 2012 7:43:21 am PDT #9951 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Incidentally, bad as "stand your ground" statues are, they still are not on z's side. He was told not to confront and did so. "Not retreating" is one thing. Agressively seeking out confrontation is another, even under that law. Ta-Nehsi Coats has been all over this story (as an aggregator, not adding original reporting). This story includes some stuff dealing with the law. [link]


brenda m - Mar 18, 2012 7:44:40 am PDT #9952 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Why hasn't he been arrested?

Because based on current law, it's not at all clear he committed any crime. Which just shows the sickening direction we've allowed the state of law to take.

(Which is not at all to say that, were the complexions reversed, the i interpretation of whether or not a crime had been committed would not be different. We all know it would be.)

He was told not to confront and did so. "Not retreating" is one thing. Agressively seeking out confrontation is another, even under that law.

I'm not at all sure it will play out that way. But this is exactly where public pressure could in fact have some impact.


Typo Boy - Mar 18, 2012 7:48:02 am PDT #9953 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Not a lwayer, but the link above suggests that if it does not play out that way, it is abuse of police and prosecutorial discretin, and not valid law. Of course if the prosecutor is pressured into bringing a case they don't want there are all sorts of ways they can throw the case. So public pressure not only to bring the case, but to pursue it vigorously.


sj - Mar 18, 2012 7:53:23 am PDT #9954 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I just can't get over he wasn't even brought in for questioning after the killing. It boggles my mind. I just read an article in which the killer's family is claiming that he can't be a racist because he's Hispanic. Sorry, being from one ethnic group does not exempt you from being a racist against another.


le nubian - Mar 18, 2012 7:58:42 am PDT #9955 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

not to mention that he has called 911 several times complaining about Black people.


sj - Mar 18, 2012 8:01:05 am PDT #9956 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

not to mention that he has called 911 several times complaining about Black people.

The 911 call I saw the transcript of was infuriating.