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Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Scrappy - Apr 13, 2013 9:36:57 pm PDT #28766 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I liked changing my name, both times I got married. For me, it was a symbol of choosing this man and it made an official break with my not married self. I know he chose me as well and didn't change HIS name, so it is illogical, but it felt right. But, as I said, I never liked my maiden name. Changing my middle name along with my last name worked for me.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Apr 13, 2013 10:51:41 pm PDT #28767 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Wake Up With Stephen Fry

Surnames are quite a lot more complicated when you're two women. We chose an old, no-longer-used family name of mine that also worked well for The Girl. (I think I discussed it here at the time.) We now both go by 'Ms. J'. I dislike it when I get asked 'Miss or Mrs'? The answer is 'no...'

I know in England there are lots of commonly hyphenated family names that go to both men and women. I wonder how they resolve the programming issue.

Yep - and it's not just the aristocracy. A lot of divorced-and-remarried families are giving their kids hyphenated names to reflect both families, for exmaple, and it's getting passed on. I teach many students with double names. Makes for long class registers.


Cass - Apr 13, 2013 11:06:34 pm PDT #28768 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

We now both go by 'Ms. J'. I dislike it when I get asked 'Miss or Mrs'? The answer is 'no...'

Because it is not an easy or compact answer. I, personally, always make them default to Ms because it stops defining me as virgin or property. But I changed my name on marriage still and then at divorce, later, kept it the name. So fraught.


amych - Apr 14, 2013 4:44:44 am PDT #28769 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm with team le nubian and Strix and Nora Dierdre, we who never would've considered changing. That said, I both love hearing how many of y'all arrived at your choices, and think every dude out there should at least consider the question.

I did want to throw out, though, that the "no hyphens in database names" link Hec found refers to the name of the database: HUMAN_RESOURCES rather than HUMAN-RESOURCES. The database doesn't give a shit if you have a hyphen in the content you store in it, any more than it cares that I've typed several hyphens in the content of this post -- it's the programmers who determined what's to be done with that content who fall over their wacky American assumptions over and over. A favorite article of mine, from the "programmers, get your head out of your ass" side of things rather than the marriage politics side: [link]


Laura - Apr 14, 2013 5:02:23 am PDT #28770 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Our databases contain many Latin names that may include 3 or 4 or even 5 names, with and without hyphens. Hyphens don't bother the database as much as apostrophes, but we allow both in the name fields.

My solution has been that any time I get a truncation error I increase the size of the field, and then that is the standard for all updates for all the customers going forward. We also can search for patients by first name, last name, DOB, SSN, or telephone number. So they get found.

Personally I think the programmers need to fix the software because people should be able to have their names spelled the way they spell them. Maybe I will my name to Laura H@lt ! including the space.


Steph L. - Apr 14, 2013 5:56:29 am PDT #28771 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Here's the thing, MEN might make this commitment and better be changed and defining themselves based on it, but they are never, ever assumed to change one damn thing about their name. Some do but they are really not the norm.

Men grow up as Mr. Dude Name and they walk into their wedding ceremony, say emotionally important things and sign actual legal documents and then walk out ... Mr. Dude Name. They might be changed but legally and socially, they are the same people they walked in being.

That's driving me CRAZY. He gets...a ring? (Which, granted, I do, too.) And Tim said, "Well, I get someone who shares my name forever. That's something." Yes, dear, but it still doesn't create any marked change in how you are known to the rest of the world. Unless you change your name to StephsHusband. Which I would lobby for if it weren't so unwieldy.

I'm glad we have 5 months to go. (And I realize I don't have to decide anything by then, and can just get married and keep my name and then change it later if I finally decide to do so. But I'd like to have made the decision by then, just to be legally tidy and efficient.)

(I am straight up the worst person to plan a wedding in the history of people planning weddings. I keep telling Tim I want it to be efficient. None of my decisions are based on what's romantic, or purely aesthetic. Dress that isn't an actual wedding gown? Hell yes, if it means I can pee without 3 women helping me maneuver the dress/bustle/crinolines/whatnot! [I realize there are wedding gowns that are less complicated, and allow the bride to pee unaided, but that was a factor in picking my dress. I pee alone.] Let the guests take home ALL of the table decorations? Hell yes! Then we don't have to take them home and box them up and let them languish in the attic forever. Take the bulk of the photos *before* the ceremony [which means that we would -- gasp! -- see each other before the ceremony (which I do not give one shit about)]? Hell yes, if it means there's no long gap between the ceremony and me getting cocktails and cheese in me!)


amych - Apr 14, 2013 6:04:23 am PDT #28772 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I am straight up the worst person to plan a wedding in the history of people planning weddings.

Ha! No, you've met me? And you remember that my wedding planning consisted of crying and puking my way through work repeatedly until I realized that I really and truly didn't want any wedding at all, even a small tasteful low-key one? Really, you're rocking this thing. (And your efficiency choices all sound eminently reasonable and not REMOTELY going to mess with any important part of the joy-and-wedding-and-getting-married-ness of the thing.)


Amy - Apr 14, 2013 6:11:18 am PDT #28773 of 30001
Because books.

Tep,I say bravo. I was very much the same way. We had no favors, and I'm not sure we had decorations at the tables. We had a buffet and a DJ, because I wanted to hear my songs the way I liked them, not the way a band interpreted them. I bought the first wedding dress I tried on. My dad planned most of the other details. Seriously. I mostly just showed up, once I made sure the cake was being delivered.

However you want your wedding to go is absolutely the way it should go.


sj - Apr 14, 2013 7:27:35 am PDT #28774 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm glad we have 5 months to go. (And I realize I don't have to decide anything by then, and can just get married and keep my name and then change it later if I finally decide to do so. But I'd like to have made the decision by then, just to be legally tidy and efficient.)

If your marriage license is anything like those in MA, it will ask you what you intend your married name to be, and then you can use your marriage certificate to change everything, which is probably the easiest way to do it. Although, you can just put your maiden name down when you apply and still choose to change your name later.


Nora Deirdre - Apr 14, 2013 7:52:17 am PDT #28775 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I am straight up the worst person to plan a wedding in the history of people planning weddings.

This may be because the goddamn wedding machine has programmed us all that there's a "right" way to do this.

When there's not. Do whatever you need to do so you can get through your engagement and wedding without fear, dread, stress, or anything else that detracts from the very awesome and beautiful result of choosing to merge your life (in a legally recognized fashion) with the person you love the most.