Can I respond tomorrow?
Absolutely.
Gwen: Demon, OK? The whole nine—cloven feet and horns and teeth. He wasn't wearing lamé though. Lorne: Yeah, the evil ones can't pull it off. It gets camp.
'Harm's Way'
Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Cass - Jan 31, 2013 3:04:50 pm PST #25751 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
javachik - Jan 31, 2013 3:40:56 pm PST #25752 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Deleting because I am too tired to argue and I know I am not a disinterested party.
Cass - Jan 31, 2013 4:11:57 pm PST #25753 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
edit: deleted because it was going for a conversation and I'll respect javachik's deletion.
quester - Jan 31, 2013 5:45:50 pm PST #25754 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Have you tried the Dave Ramsey stuff, quester?
I have never heard of him before, but will look into it, thanks Liese.
Hugs all around!
javachik - Jan 31, 2013 6:32:44 pm PST #25755 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Oh Cass, I'm just now home and logging back on. I'm sorry if I stopped all conversation - didn't mean to. But there's no way I can be unbiased so I don't know if it's fair for me to take part. And a lot of what pharmaceutical companies do is not lovable. I just get disappointed when the entire industry is painted in one stroke. I'm sorry I missed what you wrote.
Liese S. - Jan 31, 2013 6:33:54 pm PST #25756 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Hugs backatcha. I love the buffistas support network.
He's Christian, so there is some of that element in there, but the core principles of what he's trying to do are straightforward, in practical terms of how to get through debt reduction and set priorities and stuff. I think a few Buffistas have been through his method. megan walker, maybe? We false started a couple of times, but hope to really hit it moving forward.
Liese S. - Jan 31, 2013 6:34:47 pm PST #25757 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Java, I don't think there's any problem with you speaking from your bias, as long as you're acknowledging it. We all come to the table with biases, and I, for one, would appreciate hearing your insider point of view.
DavidS - Jan 31, 2013 6:36:54 pm PST #25758 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Java, I don't think there's any problem with you speaking from your bias, as long as you're acknowledging it.
Yeah, I thought your point was fair and valid and worth expressing. Sorry you retracted it.
Typo Boy - Jan 31, 2013 6:39:21 pm PST #25759 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
To avoid obnoxiousnessk, I won't answer at length. But I think fundamental problems with an industry does not mean lots of people are not doing good stuff within it often with the best of intentions. But that does not mean that some of the problems are not structural rather than just a few bad apples.
javachik - Jan 31, 2013 6:44:39 pm PST #25760 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Thanks, guys. (Including Typo! :-) )