Hil, what a revolting development. Hope it's a mistake, or at least that it doesn't affect you.

I emailed the landlords. Turns out it's something to do with the previous owners of the house, and they already took care of it. So, no problem.

Thanks for the well wishes. Also, glad kitty came back home. And that landlords' issues of Hil are non-issues.

See if you can haggle the new landlord down on price.

I hate haggling. And confrontation with people that are not my friends in general, when I'm not certain I'm 150% right/when I'm not that sure of myself. Just want things to be simple, you know?

Cass, you and your family are in my thoughts. Erin, I didn't read the spoiler font because of potential blood/vomit issues, but much ~ma.

ION. Things that suck: 1. Going to bed in normal time, just for once, sleep for 15-20 minutes, then wake up and not being able to go back to sleep for another hour. 2. Migraines that are triggered by weather changes. In Israeli summer, when it's all about coming in and out of a/c. 3. All of the above.

I just sent an impassioned plea to the executors of Tom's mother's estate to please help us out by continuing to draw their fees from the rental income of Tom's mother's house that they ave access to as of now.

I almost said something about how in the US, heirs aren't responsible for the debts of the estate, based on the gobsmacked reactions here when I first brought it up, but I wasn't actually sure if that was true.

Nora, that is true. I mean, you can't inherit things if there's more debt than inheritance, obviously, but if mom dies owning $10k on her credit card and rents and only has $2k in the bank, I'm not out for that unless I co-sign on her card. But that also means while I'm not out $8k, I probably would have to pay out of pocket for a funeral or whatever.

Yesh, we did pay for the funeral, which is understandable given the amount of money her end of life care cost.

These are solicitor's fees, so I don't know that over here we'd be charged once the amount in the estate has been sent to them. Maybe it's because we do own half of the house that she left to Tom? Of course, we can't sell it because the other half belongs to Tom's dad, and he doesn't want to sell- prefers the monthly income from the rent.

prefers the monthly income from the rent.

Doesn't he owe you half the rent?

Any chance you can get Tom's father to buy you out of the house?

Can you force someone to sell, here? I feel like you might be able to force them to either sell or buy you out, but that a lot of people haven't been doing that lately because the market was so low that selling wouldn't be a good plan. But yeah, the value of half the house would be part of the estate and would need to either go to cover her debts or if you kept it, you'd have to find another way to pay.

he's retired, and on a fixed income. He can't afford to buy us out, and has resisted all our requests to think about selling it. Market is good in St. Andrews, and would be able to sell pretty well, I think.

Legally, maybe we could force a sale, but I don't see that happening - Tom's not going to force anything on him.

We do get half the rental income, it's currently going to the estate account. I am hoping the lawyer will take pity on us and continue to collect the rent until we've paid what we owe.

if mom dies owning $10k on her credit card and rents and only has $2k in the bank, I'm not out for that unless I co-sign on her card. But that also means while I'm not out $8k, I probably would have to pay out of pocket for a funeral or whatever.

Not necessarily true. Caveat: this is state-dependent. In MD, there's a certain order to payment of debts when there's insufficient assets:

• Fees due to the register;

• Costs and expenses of administration;

• Funeral expenses not to exceed $5,000 (small estate) or $10,000 (regular estate);

• Compensation of personal representative in a regular estate, legal services and commissions of licensed real estate broker;

• Family allowance – Spouse $5,000.00 each minor child $2,500.00;

• Taxes due by the decedent;

• Reasonable medical, hospital, and nursing expenses of the last illness of the decedent;

• Rent payable by the decedent for not more than three months in arrears;

• Wages, salaries or commission for services performed for the decedent within three months prior to death of the decedent;

• Old age assistance claims; and

• All other claims

Nora, the solicitor's fees are part of the costs and expenses of administration. If you don't sell the house, you would be responsible for them, even here. The larger question is why is his father not responsible for half, since he has half of the remaining assets of the estate?

In Tom's mother's case, it sounds like there are sufficient assets to cover the debts. The administrator/s and/or court could force a sale of the house to cover the expenses.