I don't care if it is an orgy of death, there's still such a thing as a napkin.

Willow ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - May 04, 2011 5:46:03 pm PDT #6905 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I have no judgement on tipping. Generally when it comes to tipping etiquette, I ask Dr. Google.


brenda m - May 04, 2011 6:02:32 pm PDT #6906 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think that's different, since servers are paid a reduced wage based on the presumption that that people will tip 15%.

That is actually true about many service jobs.

Really? I've never heard of that outside of servers. (Farm workers are another category with reduced minimum wage reqs, but not really relevant here.)

Although possibly I have been engaging in jackassery when it comes to not tipping sole proprietors.

That's what I learned, but it always seemed awkward. (And sometimes, how would you know?)


§ ita § - May 04, 2011 6:05:47 pm PDT #6907 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And, lo, I have to report for jury duty tomorrow, which means I need to clear my calendar of meetings now.


Steph L. - May 04, 2011 6:09:40 pm PDT #6908 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

(And sometimes, how would you know?)

If I don't 100% know, I err on the side of tipping. (To avoid the aforementioned jackassery. As well as nincompoopery.)


beth b - May 04, 2011 6:47:58 pm PDT #6909 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

as far as I know medical massage means no tip and the hospital around here that dies them is supposed to be really good


meara - May 04, 2011 6:48:19 pm PDT #6910 of 30001

Agreed on the sole proprietor/owner thing, in theory (but agree that it feels weird sometimes).

Really? I've never heard of that outside of servers. (Farm workers are another category with reduced minimum wage reqs, but not really relevant here.)

Farm workers?!? Really, what's the justification there? They're not getting tipped! And they're working really hard!

That said, in some places the waiters get minimum wage (here in Washington) which means with tips, those are pretty good paying jobs (relatively). Thus all the people who move here, become waiters and bartenders and baristas while pursuing some other interest.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 04, 2011 7:03:30 pm PDT #6911 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I suspect it's good that I've never had to rely on a wait staff job, as no matter how good the tips are they wouldn't cover bail after my reaction to some of the customer behavior I've seen from fellow diners.


le nubian - May 04, 2011 7:16:32 pm PDT #6912 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, this is why I get mad at CNN and think it is worthless at times:

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megan walker - May 04, 2011 7:23:04 pm PDT #6913 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Really? I've never heard of that outside of servers.

Not the minimum wage thing, but for most baristas, hair dressers, manicurists, hotel staff, and casino dealers, 40-50% of their income comes from tips. For food delivery, I believe it was far higher.

Personally I find the whole tipping system ridiculous, but now that I know that reality, I work with that frame of reference.


Kat - May 04, 2011 7:23:08 pm PDT #6914 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Jesse! Paging Jesse!

Speaking of doctors, I'm going to the eye doctor today, and am seriously considering Zenni for new glasses. Has anyone actually used them? Anything I need to know?

I've used Zenni and I love them. I have like 7 pairs of glasses that I have gotten there. But my PD measurement is perfect and my astygmatism mild. LOVE.