I don't really have a security blanket... unless you count Mr. Pointy.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Apr 21, 2011 10:29:49 am PDT #4574 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

The guy nearly lost it. I just went back and reviewed the video. He's a bus driver (used to be a construction worker). But his wife is a teacher who is facing a pay cut with the recent collective bargaining/benefits battle in WI. Duffy had to explain that he quit his job as a DA to run for congress so he went without a paycheck for six months (and he has six kids).

The man was angry because Duffy's salary is THREE times what the guy and his wife TOGETHER make. It ended up being Duffy explaining how much better the WI public employees have it than most people--including Duffy, who gave up their excellent health insurance when he quit as a DA and has to muddle through on Congressional Healthcare.

He's a douche.


Cashmere - Apr 21, 2011 10:31:41 am PDT #4575 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Yeah, the GOP MADE the video and posted it on their website. Then freaked out as they tried to scour it from the internets.


Kathy A - Apr 21, 2011 10:32:38 am PDT #4576 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

That's right up there with "Oops!" during surgery with local anesthesia.

Tip of the hat to Bill Cosby

Hee!

"Hemostat...clamp...oops..."
"'Oops'? Whaddya ya mean, 'oops'? I know what I'm talking about when I say 'Oops,' what are you talking about?!?"


Sophia Brooks - Apr 21, 2011 10:39:24 am PDT #4577 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wow- Duffy really misread the situation, too. Like, I think he thought it was going to sound wonderful that he "only" made $174,000. He sounded like an idiot.


Jesse - Apr 21, 2011 10:41:41 am PDT #4578 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That's so easy to understand, though -- once you're in Congress, if you're one of the few people actually living off the $174K, it would start to feel very small, very fast. If you think you need two nice houses and etc, especially.


Jesse - Apr 21, 2011 10:42:10 am PDT #4579 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Note: I think it's bonkers, but I get how easy it is to only compare yourself to the people closest around you.


SuziQ - Apr 21, 2011 10:45:51 am PDT #4580 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'm so frustrated. I need to find me a financial advisor to deal with my financial mess. I just tried to see if I could do an early withdrawl of some of my 401k funds to pay off my current debts which would make life SO much easier and apparently I can't touch any of it. I'm willing to pay the crazy tax penalty just to get out from under my current mess, but noooooo.

Frack, frack, frack. Apparently if I left my job, I could get some of it. And for a half a minute I considered the possibility.


Liese S. - Apr 21, 2011 10:50:03 am PDT #4581 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I have been lucky in that the only really wealthy people I know are self-made wealthy people who live very very conservatively. Like turn off the lights when you go down the stairs conservatively.

And sure they can do stuff like buy two shoe stores or a farm or two Mini Coopers when they decide they want to. And yes, I had a really good time picking out a super nice sound system for them (it's fun spending other people's money!) so it's not as if they're miserly, but they also are extremely generous. They've given us literally tens of thousands of dollars over the years. They bought our lot for us to serve as collateral for our house build. (That was a fraught few months before our construction loan paid them off, I'll tell you what.) And we're only one of the many charitable works with which they are involved.

Anyway. They were good for us during the build insanity (do I need granite countertops? They don't have granite countertops.) because you can get really caught up in acceleration there. And they have been good for us in general, like, learning how to prioritize in budgeting and whatnot.

As far as the independently wealthy thing goes, I feel a little sad to discover in this conversation that being independently wealthy right now wouldn't solve any of my problems. It couldn't undo the tsunami. It couldn't reverse the damage to my father's health. It couldn't reduce the amount of abuse my students face.

I think about the only thing it would change is that I wouldn't have to do the summer fundraising camp gig that I'm so dreading. Which I guess says something really good about my life. I like my job, my house, my family. And I guess on a certain level, it's like when I was in seventh grade and I worked my way up to the popular table, got invited to the best parties, and then discovered those kids were all vapid and I was happier hanging out with my loser buddies.

Because we were making over $100 grand, and living in a $300/month apartment to boot. So the cash we had, it was disposable. And there was definitely stuff we loved about that, mostly to do with eating at the blues bar all the time. And we were paying off massive debts, so it wasn't all in pocket. But a lot of it was. I considered myself wealthy at that point.

But I was never so happy as when I walked away from it and was sitting on a dirt floor in the middle of the desert teaching a little girl how to knit, not even my job. So I guess I feel like being wealthy didn't buy me anything I wanted, except the ability to not make money. That next year I made $11,000. Deceptive again because I quit before the SO, and his salary was the bulk of it, and because housing was free for a while there. But still.

Today is different because we're living in a town, feeling like we're scrambling to make mortgage. But also we were able to pay taxes out of our emergency fund and some gear sales. (I realize Dave Ramsey says taxes are not an emergency because they come around every year, but he also says the govt is the last person I want to be indebted to.) So in a sense, even though we scramble and scrimp a lot, I feel more financially secure than ever, and more settled. Which is a weird spot to be in these days. Of course we know that everything is subject to loss. But right now, I feel better than I ever did drinking Guiness every night and going to concerts every weekend.


Liese S. - Apr 21, 2011 10:50:41 am PDT #4582 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ooh. That was talky. Sorry!


Zenkitty - Apr 21, 2011 10:59:23 am PDT #4583 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Suzi, can you take a loan from your 401k? I did that to pay off the last of my debts, and I was very glad I did. The loan has to be paid back, of course, and in my case they took it directly out of my paycheck (which didn't hurt too much), but at least you're paying it back to yourself.