Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


SuziQ - Sep 25, 2011 5:16:51 pm PDT #28273 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Where in WY did he go? Southern half, I guess?

Yep, in the south, a little town somewhere near Laramie. He has been invited up to our friend's cabin for years and this is the first time it has worked for him to go. (It is strange to be able to write years like that when I still feel like such a CO newbie).

I do not have the brain to send a lit to Perkins. Maybe tomorrow.

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Amy - Sep 25, 2011 5:22:13 pm PDT #28274 of 30001
Because books.

Yep, in the south, a little town somewhere near Laramie.

Our year in Wyoming was so weird and fraught and I was pregnant for most of it, so I really didn't enjoy it, and we didn't see much of it, either. But I would love to go back now -- Ben is dying to see Yellowstone, and as he calls it, "the land of his birth."


sarameg - Sep 25, 2011 5:27:32 pm PDT #28275 of 30001

My Y did a cool thing today. It's on the site of the old Memorial Stadium, and now has a Cal Ripkin project baseball field. Anyway, today was a Ravens game day. They brought in one of those industrial sized flatscreens, set up seats and set up a portion of the parking lot for tailgating for a small fee. It was full, complete with grills. On the field, they had bounce houses for kids and various food vendors.

Apparently, this is gonna be a regular thing.


§ ita § - Sep 25, 2011 5:32:52 pm PDT #28276 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was moved ahead as much as a year and a half at times, and they decided that the half year was too much. I was fine a year ahead, but then for other reasons the prep school wanted me held back instead of letting me go to high school, but my mother overrode them.

However, when I moved to England they pulled me back to my proper year because I just had no experience with their curriculum. Fair enough.

The chick in the Verizon iPad ad is really pretty and I want her earrings.


billytea - Sep 25, 2011 5:33:58 pm PDT #28277 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I know some of us have shared concerns here before about having young kindergartners (and so on). I haven't read this entire article but it seems to offer some reassurance. [link]

This is very interesting. Ryan was born right on Victoria's cutoff date, which would make him the oldest in his class when he starts school. Now I'm wondering what to do. (I skipped kindergarten myself, so I was in the opposite situation.)


Stephanie - Sep 25, 2011 5:38:58 pm PDT #28278 of 30001
Trust my rage

Personally, I think it is totally child dependent. My brother's birthday was 2 days before the cut off. My mom, an elementary teacher, held him back and it was the right thing for him. Until he turned 18 days before his senior year and that year was hard for him.

I know that post-Malcolm Gladwell's book, there was a lot of conversation about holding kids back and I think it was sort of a thing in certain circles, as mentioned in the NY Times article.

Ellie has a June birthday. I think going to school was clearly right for her, but I do notice at thebeginning of each year that she seems a bit younger than much of her class.


Kat - Sep 25, 2011 5:40:36 pm PDT #28279 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Some of the arguments are total redherrings. Anecdotally, many of the kids who are being redshirted are NOT the lower income kids, but instead are kids who are already in preschool of some sort.

Moreover, acceleration is a powerful force because that intervention is an overt action of belief of a kid's competency plus it usually comes with the advice that a kid will have to work harder wherever they are.

If N&G were on the cusp, I'd keep them out of Kinder an additional year and instead keep them in a PreK. By the end of kinder, the expectations, at least in California, is that a kid can write a full sentence on their own, which is a difficult achievement. By the end of !st, they should write a paragraph of at least 3 sentences that are interconnected.


Typo Boy - Sep 25, 2011 5:45:35 pm PDT #28280 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also something to consider. Even if the kid is academically ready are they emotionally mature enough? Coping with other kids when you are the youngest kid the room can be hell. I speak from personal first hand experience but as ita shows it does not apply to everyone. So just like with academic achievement depends on kid, but you do need to think about whether your kid, as youngest in the room, but not so young they are not seen as fair game, will be a bully magnet.


Lee - Sep 25, 2011 5:57:14 pm PDT #28281 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Perkins, I don't know what this will end up looking like, but thanks for being willing to organize the TJs givers/receivers.

I don't either, but I will come up with something!

Mostly right now I am thinking of sneak TJ packages--you won't know when or what, but if you want something, you will get it!


Allyson - Sep 25, 2011 7:00:50 pm PDT #28282 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I just got a bad review on Amazon and am taking it personally.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO.