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Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strix - Sep 13, 2011 7:03:37 pm PDT #26032 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Cats are easily startled, Connie.

I think I would call a FTM who preferred women straight. But I would think that him adopting "queer" as a term would also jibe with my thoughts on queer. (Which are good!)

But an asexual heteromantic would not jibe with what I think of a "queer."

I don't care what people do or don't do with their parts and/or hearts. Using labels in discussions is very confusing.

Someone's always going to be wrong.

ION, I just discovered the crack that is Words with Friends, and it's so irritating that "Saxon" isn't acceptable, but "french" is.


§ ita § - Sep 13, 2011 7:20:35 pm PDT #26033 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have been told that as an aromantic I am queer, but it's okay, I'm good. Maybe I need to unpack my privilege, but it really doesn't seem to be anything worth worrying about with all the slices and flavours out there.

Now I remember why I overpay for getting my brows waxed. Treatment is consistent and polite. I don't have to argue with them about the sensitivity of my skin (seriously, lip balm gives me a rash, take my word for the state of the skin--you have no magic that can fix it). And you don't rest your hand on my mouth while you're plucking, or put undue pressure on my eyeballs.

And that dollar I dropped? That was my dollar, not part of your 30% tip. Dream on.

Okay, off to see if I can do that sleep thing. RInger looks passably interesting so far.


meara - Sep 13, 2011 7:33:27 pm PDT #26034 of 30001

Also, she defined straight as requiring being cisgender. Oh. But I think of my FTM cousin as straight, because he married a woman. It just seemed respectful. He's just not cis. Does that mean he's queer? QUILTBAG, maybe, but not queer.

Well, yes. But that's also where the "queer as umbrella term" comes in.

That said, I kind of am irritated when everyone and their brother tries to claim they're "queer" even if they only like/date cis-gendered people of the opposite sex. I don't think kinky is queer (It is often queer-friendly, but not even necessarily that). Then again, there are some straight people that I totally would support calling themselves queer, so...it's complicated. :)


§ ita § - Sep 13, 2011 8:13:00 pm PDT #26035 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You're definitely off the beaten track, but make up a new word and just let queer mean homo/bi/pan. The are lots of words. We definitely don't have to share all of them, even to march under the same banner.


aurelia - Sep 13, 2011 11:08:17 pm PDT #26036 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

All the definitions are confusing. I'll just go with a quote from Funkadelic. "Yeah we all got a thang, and it's a very good thang."

Chicagoistas! Anyone want to see a play Friday? [link] I can get 4 tix. Let me know. (email - I may not be able to keep up here during tech)

Also... Shrift and Brenda (and anyone else downtownish), I could probably meet up for dinner sometime this week or next.


Jessica - Sep 14, 2011 4:03:41 am PDT #26037 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

it's complicated.

Online, I feel like it's frequently more about scoring points in Oppression Olympics than anything else. Being straight is a huge liability when you're trying to prove your marginalized cred on Feministe. (@@@@@@)


zuisa - Sep 14, 2011 4:58:59 am PDT #26038 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

So I'm filling in for the receptionist at my aunt's office for the rest of the week. It's the easiest job in the world, but I'm a bit puzzled by the layout. All I have to do is answer the phone and forward it to the right person - but the phone isn't on the desk. You have to rocket backwards about two feet and do a full 180 to answer the phone, which is on a tiny little table. I basically just think it's funny.

Aurelia, I'm nowhere near Chicago, but I've heard excellent things about "Red". So enjoy!


Amy - Sep 14, 2011 5:46:34 am PDT #26039 of 30001
Because books.

So ... what is on the desk, zuisa?

We're very quiet this morning. And my massage got postponed so I'm pouting.


hippocampus - Sep 14, 2011 5:51:09 am PDT #26040 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

And my massage got postponed so I'm pouting.

was there a fire?


zuisa - Sep 14, 2011 5:54:44 am PDT #26041 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

This ancient computer. That's it. But there'd be nowhere else to sit, so... yeah. I think they also want me facing the elevator in case visitors come in? Which they don't. But no one really calls, either. Half the people who supposedly work here still aren't in, and it's almost 11:00. The whole place is just a mystery.