Nandi: I ain't her. Mal: Only people in this room is you and me.

'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jun 21, 2011 8:59:34 am PDT #13621 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Emmett's watching Deal or No Deal and I'm having a hard time explaining risk calculation to him.

"But she's still got a one in three chance!"

"No, that's not how you calculate the decision. You calculate all the odd possibilities versus the reward, and at a certain point the odds don't favor what you're risking. It's not a coin flip. There's an actual value you can place on the risk/reward calculation and she blew it when she didn't take the $188,000 offer after the million came off the board. I guarantee you that she will walk away with far less than that amount now."

"But she's still got a chance to get the $500,000!"

"No! You don't get it. She's not making a decision based on actual calculations. She's entered a fallacy of thinking she's lucky or intuitive. She made a bunch of lucky/fortuitous guesses early, which tipped the odds in her favor. The guy in the booth is not pulling his offers out of his ass. He's running a calculation. He's measuring the risk for each choice. She needs to do that too and failed to do that when she said No Deal on the offer at $188,000."

Anyway. She still wound up with $83,000.


msbelle - Jun 21, 2011 9:01:49 am PDT #13622 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Tom - a cruise. Or, I know a lovely group in Ethiopia that you could volunteer with.


zuisa - Jun 21, 2011 9:04:41 am PDT #13623 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

I'll be on a cruise ship for 9/11, and I'm sort of hoping it's NOT one with primarily American passengers so it will be as little of a big deal as possible. I feel like every Australian holiday that popped up while I was on my last ship was a MUCH bigger deal because if we didn't go all out, the Aussies freaked out that the American ship wasn't catering to its passengers enough.


msbelle - Jun 21, 2011 9:04:56 am PDT #13624 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

no no no DISNEY WORLD!!! or you could go walking the Appalachian Trail.


Cashmere - Jun 21, 2011 9:09:16 am PDT #13625 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Hec, The Monty Hall Problem continues to stymie some folks.


Steph L. - Jun 21, 2011 9:12:41 am PDT #13626 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, North Carolina-istas: what is up with that wildfire in Pender County?

signed,
It's All About Me And My Upcoming Vacation

t edit I'm really confused reading the news reports -- several say the fire is centered up near Cary, but others talk about it being down near Hampstead.


Toddson - Jun 21, 2011 9:22:31 am PDT #13627 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Can you go "walking the Appalachian Trail" alone?


Calli - Jun 21, 2011 9:23:21 am PDT #13628 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

There are currently three fires burning in NC, all near the coast. I believe the Pender County one is the largest, and all of them are in wildlife conservation areas. The smoke has engulfed the Triangle (where I live) 200 miles away. I've already had to pull out my asthma inhaler, and my town has Facebooked, tweeted, and robocalled a message begging people to stop calling 911 to report the (200 miles distant) fire. Unless they see actual flames, in which case our fire department can, you know, actually do something about it.


Typo Boy - Jun 21, 2011 9:31:00 am PDT #13629 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I really have trouble getting my head around the Monty Hall problem. I kinda of follow the Math. But my intuition keeps screaming, "no the odds haven't changed" even though the point is that we now now have new information to recalculate. My intuition is wrong wrong wrong, and the math is right, but still really hard to get.

Oh unrelated: Part of my recipe for making welsh rabbit is to use the worst beer I can get. Have not made it for a while. At one point some stores offered a generic beer that worked well. In Texas I used to buy Lone Star for the purpose. Now I'm in Washington State. What is fairly widely available really awful dark beer. The worse the beer used as a base the better the cheese sauce tastes. So looking for the worst beer, not the cheapest. Willing to pay a bit more if I can get lower quality. Suggestions?


Typo Boy - Jun 21, 2011 9:31:56 am PDT #13630 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And Cali the above was x-posted with yours. Sorry to hear about the fires. Can you get away if it gets too hard on your lungs?