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Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.

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Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 5:01:57 pm PDT #11497 of 30001

this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Is that what being romantic is, or is that being emo?

My shorthand for "writing him as wanting the standard and stereotypical trappings of romance, as defined by Every Kiss begins with Kay and the floral industry."

Ah. That's why I have no trouble seeing him as asexual homoromantic, because I don't see "romance" as needing to be as described by your shorthand. It doesn't work for me as a demi/grey A/whateversexual, but I am not short on romance. So I figure Sherlock's "romance" would not look like DeBeers would like it to.

Dana - Jun 05, 2011 5:02:52 pm PDT #11498 of 30001

I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

So I figure Sherlock's "romance" would not look like DeBeers would like it to.

You wouldn't think so, but then there's fandom at large. Which has very strong instincts.

Amy - Jun 05, 2011 5:03:36 pm PDT #11499 of 30001

Because books.

So I figure Sherlock's "romance" would not look like DeBeers would like it to.

I think a lot of characters' wouldn't, and simply a lot of people. That shorthand is so old and so cliched, I don't know how accurate it is anymore.

§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:11:07 pm PDT #11500 of 30001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I describe Sherlock as romantic I just mean as the opposite of aromantic, not as a lovesick tween.

Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 5:11:50 pm PDT #11501 of 30001

this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So I figure Sherlock's "romance" would not look like DeBeers would like it to.

You wouldn't think so, but then there's fandom at large. Which has very strong instincts.

Are we talking about 2 different things? Thing 1: my opinion as to whether Sherlock is ace. Thing 2: fandom's opinion as to whether Sherlock is ace. (Thing 2, subhead a: fandom's definition of "romance.")

I wasn't even thinking about what fandom thinks. I was just talking about what I thought, and why.

Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 5:12:14 pm PDT #11502 of 30001

this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

When I describe Sherlock as romantic I just mean as the opposite of aromantic, not as a lovesick tween.

What ita said.

§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:32:53 pm PDT #11503 of 30001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm watching SaTC2 and wow, talk about aliens. The actress who plays Samantha looks horrible. I didn't really watch the show much before, but she looks stretched and awful.

But wow, talk about alien motivations. Is this supposed to be womenfolk?

Kat - Jun 05, 2011 5:36:50 pm PDT #11504 of 30001

"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

ita, why are you watching SaTC2?

Madagascar is on our TV. Which also confounds me.

Dana - Jun 05, 2011 5:39:22 pm PDT #11505 of 30001

I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Thing 2, subhead a: fandom's definition of "romance."

That one. I'm just commiserating with Plei.

§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:40:49 pm PDT #11506 of 30001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

why are you watching SaTC2?

It's there?

Frankly, I'm appalled to be even remotely culturally associated with these women, but I can't look away.

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