ita, why are you watching SaTC2?
Madagascar is on our TV. Which also confounds me.
I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—
William ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Kat - Jun 05, 2011 5:36:50 pm PDT #11504 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Dana - Jun 05, 2011 5:39:22 pm PDT #11505 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
Thing 2, subhead a: fandom's definition of "romance."
That one. I'm just commiserating with Plei.
§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:40:49 pm PDT #11506 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
why are you watching SaTC2?
It's there?
Frankly, I'm appalled to be even remotely culturally associated with these women, but I can't look away.
Amy - Jun 05, 2011 5:45:02 pm PDT #11507 of 30001
Because books.
I caught part of SatC2 on cable late one night, and I couldn't look away. It was surreal and ridiculous and offensive. And I used to like the show! Although my favorite character was always the city.
I felt like Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte were more or less realistic, but Samantha was more and more of a caricature as the show went on.
I also thought the greatest relationship on the show was between the four of them, rather than their various partners.
§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:53:44 pm PDT #11508 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I never watched the show, so I don't have anything to tie it back to. It's incredibly surreal. I'm assuming that they're displaying something that we're supposed to aspire to, that we're supposed to be able to see ourselves in one of them, and like some of their clothes, or something, but it's insane.
billytea - Jun 05, 2011 6:06:03 pm PDT #11509 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
I caught part of SatC2 on cable late one night, and I couldn't look away. It was surreal and ridiculous and offensive. And I used to like the show! Although my favorite character was always the city.
You're going to make the sex jealous with opinions like that.
Kat - Jun 05, 2011 6:07:10 pm PDT #11510 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
I always felt a little guilty for watching SaTC at all. It felt like gay-boys playing paper dolls instead of actual characters. But it was CRACK.
Hil R. - Jun 05, 2011 6:08:43 pm PDT #11511 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I always felt a little guilty for watching SaTC at all. It felt like gay-boys playing paper dolls instead of actual characters. But it was CRACK.
When my sister first saw Queer As Folk, her reaction was, "Oh, it's like Sex and the City, but with gay men."
§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 6:10:57 pm PDT #11512 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, I changed the channel away to something else I don't understand: True Blood. Then I went and read the wikipedia entry on the movie, and I'm glad I didn't bother finish it up. I mean, it's not like it was going anywhere other than "Can Carrie accept an unconventional marriage?" and the answer is patently no.
True Blood? I'm killing time and waiting for something to click while my sleep meds kick in.
P.M. Marc - Jun 05, 2011 6:14:14 pm PDT #11513 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
That one. I'm just commiserating with Plei.
MY MISERY NEEDS YOUR COMPANY!
Seriously, I've read ONE, maybe TWO believably IC Ace Sherlock stories, the one series that's John/Lestrade, and I think something on the kinkmeme.
Ah. That's why I have no trouble seeing him as asexual homoromantic, because I don't see "romance" as needing to be as described by your shorthand. It doesn't work for me as a demi/grey A/whateversexual, but I am not short on romance. So I figure Sherlock's "romance" would not look like DeBeers would like it to.
I'm starting to feel like words have lost all meaning! (insert emoticon here, as my tongue is partly in my cheek) Fandom's writing of him aside, I do see him as largely, primarily aromantic. If I read him as ace at all, it's going to be as an aromantic ace.
His emotional connection to John is they exception to most of his rules (esp. as we have no indication in BBCverse that there is a Victor Trevor in his past, though if he is, I've mentally casted him with a couple of different guys, and yeah, ANYHOW), and exists in a space that's epic and beyond normal friendship or romance.