You've got my support. Just think of me as...as your... You know, I'm searching for 'supportive things' and I'm coming up all bras.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:11:07 pm PDT #11500 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I describe Sherlock as romantic I just mean as the opposite of aromantic, not as a lovesick tween.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 5:11:50 pm PDT #11501 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So I figure Sherlock's "romance" would not look like DeBeers would like it to.

You wouldn't think so, but then there's fandom at large. Which has very strong instincts.

Are we talking about 2 different things? Thing 1: my opinion as to whether Sherlock is ace. Thing 2: fandom's opinion as to whether Sherlock is ace. (Thing 2, subhead a: fandom's definition of "romance.")

I wasn't even thinking about what fandom thinks. I was just talking about what I thought, and why.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 5:12:14 pm PDT #11502 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

When I describe Sherlock as romantic I just mean as the opposite of aromantic, not as a lovesick tween.

What ita said.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:32:53 pm PDT #11503 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm watching SaTC2 and wow, talk about aliens. The actress who plays Samantha looks horrible. I didn't really watch the show much before, but she looks stretched and awful.

But wow, talk about alien motivations. Is this supposed to be womenfolk?


Kat - Jun 05, 2011 5:36:50 pm PDT #11504 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

ita, why are you watching SaTC2?

Madagascar is on our TV. Which also confounds me.


Dana - Jun 05, 2011 5:39:22 pm PDT #11505 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Thing 2, subhead a: fandom's definition of "romance."

That one. I'm just commiserating with Plei.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:40:49 pm PDT #11506 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

why are you watching SaTC2?

It's there?

Frankly, I'm appalled to be even remotely culturally associated with these women, but I can't look away.


Amy - Jun 05, 2011 5:45:02 pm PDT #11507 of 30001
Because books.

I caught part of SatC2 on cable late one night, and I couldn't look away. It was surreal and ridiculous and offensive. And I used to like the show! Although my favorite character was always the city.

I felt like Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte were more or less realistic, but Samantha was more and more of a caricature as the show went on.

I also thought the greatest relationship on the show was between the four of them, rather than their various partners.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 5:53:44 pm PDT #11508 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I never watched the show, so I don't have anything to tie it back to. It's incredibly surreal. I'm assuming that they're displaying something that we're supposed to aspire to, that we're supposed to be able to see ourselves in one of them, and like some of their clothes, or something, but it's insane.


billytea - Jun 05, 2011 6:06:03 pm PDT #11509 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I caught part of SatC2 on cable late one night, and I couldn't look away. It was surreal and ridiculous and offensive. And I used to like the show! Although my favorite character was always the city.

You're going to make the sex jealous with opinions like that.