You'd never make it. I'd rip your spine out before you got half a step. Those little legs wouldn't be much good without one of those.

Glory ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2011 10:51:17 am PDT #10671 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Montreal is an island. It can do large bodies of water.

I can't work out what to have for lunch.


Calli - Jun 01, 2011 10:55:27 am PDT #10672 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Montreal is an island. It can do large bodies of water.

It's an island in a river. My standards for large bodies of water were set by Lake Huron.


beth b - Jun 01, 2011 11:04:30 am PDT #10673 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think so. My POV is more demisexual -- I have The Sex with Tim, and actually *want* to. I have a hard time calling it "sexual attraction," though, because it's more that I want to have sex with him because he's *him,* not because of...whatever it is that happens when people are sexually attracted to each other.

That makes more sense to me than almost anything else I've ever heard. I don't really get things like affairs, because for me that would mean my whole relationship with Matt had changed.

and now my brain is all twisted around how to express this

huh


Atropa - Jun 01, 2011 11:14:34 am PDT #10674 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Remind me not to get into debates on Twitter. Because trying to explain to people that having a Plan B in case you aren't able to support yourself as an ARTEEST following your bliss is NOT setting yourself up to fail will lead to me losing my temper.

Personally, I'd rather not have to have a dayjob. But I like being able to pay bills and have health insurance, and not having those things makes me worry so much that I can't concentrate on my creative projects.


ChiKat - Jun 01, 2011 11:14:51 am PDT #10675 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

My POV is more demisexual -- I have The Sex with Tim, and actually *want* to. I have a hard time calling it "sexual attraction," though, because it's more that I want to have sex with him because he's *him,*

I find this a really fascinating discussion. As this is a fairly new topic to me, I'm trying to understand and ask this in all sincerity, no snarkiness implied whatsoever. How is this different from sexual attraction? I understand the personality is the source of your desire for Tim, but, if I'm reading this correctly, you *have* a sexual attraction to Tim.

And, doesn't personality affect sexual attraction for most people? I can find a guy sexually attractive, get to know him, and get turned right off because his personality is repellant. Or vice versa.


Jesse - Jun 01, 2011 11:16:57 am PDT #10676 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Personally, I'd rather not have to have a dayjob. But I like being able to pay bills and have health insurance, and not having those things makes me worry so much that I can't concentrate on my creative projects.

Because you're a grown-up.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2011 11:17:02 am PDT #10677 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can find a guy sexually attractive, get to know him, and get turned right off because his personality is repellant. Or vice versa.

But I can find a guy sexually attractive without knowing anything about his personality at all, and I'll bet Steph can't.

It's an island in a river

It's a really big river? With whales?


Typo Boy - Jun 01, 2011 11:17:27 am PDT #10678 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I have some questions too, but kind of feel like I would be asking for explanations for really elementary stuff. This is the kind of thing I don't like to use google for because I don't know enough about the subject to recognize authoritative bullshit. Anyone care to link me to some trustworthy sources about asexuality and demisexuality? Plus maybe something that deals with common misconceptions, cause I suspect I may have negative knowledge ("knowing things that are not so") in this area.


ChiKat - Jun 01, 2011 11:18:56 am PDT #10679 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

But I can find a guy sexually attractive without knowing anything about his personality at all, and I'll bet Steph can't.

I totally get that. Where I'm getting hung up is the lack of sexual attraction even after getting to know the person. It seems like there is an attraction to Tim that is rooted in his personality.


Atropa - Jun 01, 2011 11:19:03 am PDT #10680 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Because you're a grown-up.

There are people I know who would laugh at that label being applied to me. But I am a damn grown-up, and the whole notion of privileged hipsters telling people that being responsible means you aren't giving your all to your ART makes me want to take a mallet to them.