Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jan 25, 2011 3:12:53 pm PST #18957 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ha ha ha! What is wrong with people??


msbelle - Jan 25, 2011 3:27:37 pm PST #18958 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

so much is wrong with people, it's why I don't like many of them.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2011 3:28:27 pm PST #18959 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I consider myself honest and connable. Seriously, all someone would have to do would be to take advantage of my ignorance or trust. Or would that not be a con anymore?


Jessica - Jan 25, 2011 3:29:23 pm PST #18960 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't think the "eat food you like" message is entirely wrongheaded, but I really don't appreciate lines like this:

Maybe you’ve truly never learned to enjoy more than a very few foods, and your palate needs expanding.

and:

If you are like most human beings, you probably seek pleasure and avoid pain, within certain moral constraints — you like to feel good and you dislike feeling bad.

Which all adds up to me as having a creepy undertone of "...and if you still prefer bacon to oatmeal for breakfast, it's because there's something wrong with you."


msbelle - Jan 25, 2011 3:32:57 pm PST #18961 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

yeah, I don't feel bad after a sampler platter of fried food and a couple of beers. Maybe the writer does and that keeps her in line wrt eating well.


amyth - Jan 25, 2011 3:34:42 pm PST #18962 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Mmmm. Beer.


-t - Jan 25, 2011 3:34:58 pm PST #18963 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think that would be more of a scam than a con, ita, but that's just my gut reaction.

Which all adds up to me as having a creepy undertone of "...and if you still prefer bacon to oatmeal for breakfast, it's because there's something wrong with you."

I didn't get that from it. And I do prefer bacon to oatmeal, in general, but I don't want bacon every day, which is what she's saying is okay. I think.


shrift - Jan 25, 2011 3:35:45 pm PST #18964 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Dude on the train explained to his girlfriend that having sex for 30 minutes was like running 10 miles, and if she were here, he'd be running, like, 10,000 miles a day!

I desperately wanted to lean over and say, "a) I think you'll find that your math is deeply flawed, and b) gross."


sarameg - Jan 25, 2011 3:37:05 pm PST #18965 of 30001

I'm a big convert to eat what makes you feel good, but it does take paying close attention. But then you can get lazy with it (see my ridiculous salad habit. It is because it is easy and requires no thought.) Ad it is why I don't keep pasta around. Because I could be lazy with that too, but it makes me feel crappy. Still haven't given up my cheese habit, but keep it in moderation.

I am not looking forward to the weather tomorrow. I'll probably come home when it starts looking iffy, swim (in case the Y closes early) and then telecommute. My officemate was laughing that my big concern over the weather? OMG pool closure! Not the commute, not the shoveling, the exercise.

But I did go out and fill up my gas tank as I was pretty close to empty and I hate filling up a filthier saltier than it is now car.


Jesse - Jan 25, 2011 3:38:27 pm PST #18966 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And I do prefer bacon to oatmeal, in general, but I don't want bacon every day, which is what she's saying is okay. I think.

Yeah, that's what I took from it.

Obviously I don't have a problem with being "officially" overweight, because it means I eat what I feel like, and my weight doesn't change much. And I'm pretty healthy (cholesterol test results pending). But I have learned that I REALLY dislike feeling overfull, although I'll still do it once in a while.

Actually, this relates to a conversation I had recently about knowing the calorie counts at restaurants -- it made me feel fine about my occasional McD's meal, because on those days, it is the bulk of my food, and that actually works out to a reasonable calorie number in the end. Not a weight loss number, but I don't care about that.

Meh.