Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amyth - Jan 25, 2011 3:34:42 pm PST #18962 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Mmmm. Beer.


-t - Jan 25, 2011 3:34:58 pm PST #18963 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think that would be more of a scam than a con, ita, but that's just my gut reaction.

Which all adds up to me as having a creepy undertone of "...and if you still prefer bacon to oatmeal for breakfast, it's because there's something wrong with you."

I didn't get that from it. And I do prefer bacon to oatmeal, in general, but I don't want bacon every day, which is what she's saying is okay. I think.


shrift - Jan 25, 2011 3:35:45 pm PST #18964 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Dude on the train explained to his girlfriend that having sex for 30 minutes was like running 10 miles, and if she were here, he'd be running, like, 10,000 miles a day!

I desperately wanted to lean over and say, "a) I think you'll find that your math is deeply flawed, and b) gross."


sarameg - Jan 25, 2011 3:37:05 pm PST #18965 of 30001

I'm a big convert to eat what makes you feel good, but it does take paying close attention. But then you can get lazy with it (see my ridiculous salad habit. It is because it is easy and requires no thought.) Ad it is why I don't keep pasta around. Because I could be lazy with that too, but it makes me feel crappy. Still haven't given up my cheese habit, but keep it in moderation.

I am not looking forward to the weather tomorrow. I'll probably come home when it starts looking iffy, swim (in case the Y closes early) and then telecommute. My officemate was laughing that my big concern over the weather? OMG pool closure! Not the commute, not the shoveling, the exercise.

But I did go out and fill up my gas tank as I was pretty close to empty and I hate filling up a filthier saltier than it is now car.


Jesse - Jan 25, 2011 3:38:27 pm PST #18966 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And I do prefer bacon to oatmeal, in general, but I don't want bacon every day, which is what she's saying is okay. I think.

Yeah, that's what I took from it.

Obviously I don't have a problem with being "officially" overweight, because it means I eat what I feel like, and my weight doesn't change much. And I'm pretty healthy (cholesterol test results pending). But I have learned that I REALLY dislike feeling overfull, although I'll still do it once in a while.

Actually, this relates to a conversation I had recently about knowing the calorie counts at restaurants -- it made me feel fine about my occasional McD's meal, because on those days, it is the bulk of my food, and that actually works out to a reasonable calorie number in the end. Not a weight loss number, but I don't care about that.

Meh.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2011 3:44:45 pm PST #18967 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that would be more of a scam than a con, ita, but that's just my gut reaction.

But why? I mean, drawing from fiction isn't the best example, but on a recent episode of Hustle they had a con where "something for nothing" meant the mark offered 500 pounds. But an honest person might have seen the same setup and offered 5000. Would it have stopped being a con and then become a scam just because the mark was honest and offered full market value?

A swindle is a swindle. There's nothing I can find in the dictionary definition that makes it not also a con.


msbelle - Jan 25, 2011 3:45:31 pm PST #18968 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

If I had the money, I would look into installing one of these in cutiehead sarameg's basement: [link]


sarameg - Jan 25, 2011 3:49:42 pm PST #18969 of 30001

Hah. Don't think I haven't idly had the same thought. Except it would be ridiculous and INSANE and asking for trouble. Besides, I like going to the Y.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2011 3:53:17 pm PST #18970 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sarameg needs her pool boyfriends and girlfriends. She's got it going on, dog.

Kim Clijsters? Still cute.


-t - Jan 25, 2011 3:58:46 pm PST #18971 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Would it have stopped being a con and then become a scam just because the mark was honest and offered full market value?

That's a really good question. I don't think I saw that Hustle (there are recent episodes?), so I'm not sure what my answer would be.

The whole thing is pretty fuzzy - I don't think it's wrong, as such, to refer to a swindle as a con, but I do think it's an evolution of the term and that saying "you can't con an honest man" refers to the older and more specific usage.