Well, we may not have parted on the best of terms. I realize certain words were exchanged. Also, certain... bullets. But that's air through the engine. It's past. We're business people.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erin_obscure - Jan 12, 2011 11:57:10 am PST #16552 of 30001
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Happened to me once when i had elevated levels of protein from working out heavily the day before. I would try to not worry about it.


Ginger - Jan 12, 2011 11:57:17 am PST #16553 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

No, I mean the guy who was saying teaching on the theme of "racism is bad, mmkay!" in TKAM was teaching a belief, was saying that skirts close to teaching religion.

Surely history teaches us that morality and religion have no relation to each other.


Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2011 12:02:27 pm PST #16554 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Ok, now I'm back to being confused. Does this "society doesn't have a problem with a teacher expressing the position that racism is wrong (in fact, I have taught lessons on that). Society also says teachers will be neutral on religion. As long as teachers know wha...t is acceptable and what is not, they shouldn't have problems." read the way I think it does?

Ginger, not no relation, but I don't think it has an absolute relation. As an atheist I'd be offended by a suggestion that it was. Not that that doesn't happen all the time anyway, I'm just not allowed to be offended by it.


erin_obscure - Jan 12, 2011 12:03:22 pm PST #16555 of 30001
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

ok, does "burning crosses into students arms" mean he was BRANDING MINORS? Because that shoulda got him fired ASAP.


msbelle - Jan 12, 2011 12:04:02 pm PST #16556 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ok, trying not to worry. Worrying will not make anything better or worse anyway.


tommyrot - Jan 12, 2011 12:18:21 pm PST #16557 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I haven't looked at this yet, but here's tons of info on the teacher, from Panda's Thumb: [link]


Jesse - Jan 12, 2011 12:20:38 pm PST #16558 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Good luck, msbelle. Try not to worry too much...


brenda m - Jan 12, 2011 12:21:33 pm PST #16559 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

ok, does "burning crosses into students arms" mean he was BRANDING MINORS? Because that shoulda got him fired ASAP.

Or arrested. Seriously.


Typo Boy - Jan 12, 2011 12:23:13 pm PST #16560 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Black Panthers are considered leftist?

How are Black Panthers not considered leftist? They were thugs and often appalling, but they were at the left end of the spectrum on all issues. Feminists (not in practice but in theory), pro-labor, actually did have an awesome breakfast program, pro-environment etc.... I thinking saying someone who is not awesome is not from our end of the spectrum because they are not awesome is called the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

[On Edit: maybe some confusion with the Nation of Islam? Really good arguments for their being on the right end of the spectrum in 60s and maybe even today.]

The larger issue though: even in 60s and 70s I think there was more violence from the right than from the left, especially since much of it was sponsored by police officers and governors and such. But at that time the argument "both sides do it" might have had some validity even though both sides did not do it equally. Today, the problem of violence in politics in the USA is overwhelmingly a problem of violent right wingers. Maybe some exceptions, but damn few.

Also I will say that in spite of my finding the Panthers appalling, Angela Davis was awesome and still is.


Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2011 12:40:13 pm PST #16561 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I haven't looked at this yet, but here's tons of info on the teacher, from Panda's Thumb: [link]

The termination resolution doesn't mention the cross-burning at all. Huh.